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Beastly Boy

(11,883 posts)
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 08:36 PM Feb 20

IDF: Remains of Kfir and Ariel Bibas ID'd, but 3rd body sent by Hamas is not their mom Shiri

Last edited Fri Feb 21, 2025, 09:34 AM - Edit history (1)

The military informs the Bibas family that the bodies of Ariel and Kfir Bibas have been identified after their remains were given to Israel by Hamas on Thursday.

However, the third body at the Abu Kabir Forensic Institute was not that of their mother, Shiri Bibas, says the Israel Defense Forces. Specialists at Abu Kabir were not able to identify the body. It did not match any male or female hostage, the IDF said. “This is an anonymous, identified body.”

The authorities, using forensic evidence and intelligence, assess that the two young boys were ‘”brutally murdered” by terrorists in November 2023, says the IDF. Ariel was 4-years-old and Kfir was 10-months-old when they were murdered.

“This is a very serious violation by the Hamas terrorist organization, which is required by the agreement to return four dead hostages,” says the IDF. “We demand that Hamas return Shiri home, along with all of our hostages.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-remains-of-kfir-and-ariel-bibas-idd-3rd-body-sent-by-hamas-isnt-their-mom-shiri/

In the context of Hamas being particularly sadistic murderers, their outrageous lies don't seem to be especially surprising or revealing, but it does put their recent proposal to release all of the hostages, dead and alive, all at once, in a whole different perspective, doesn't it?
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IDF: Remains of Kfir and Ariel Bibas ID'd, but 3rd body sent by Hamas is not their mom Shiri (Original Post) Beastly Boy Feb 20 OP
Al-Mujahedeen: The fringe terror group behind murder of Bibas children Israeli Feb 21 #1
Do you still support one state, Israeli? Mosby Feb 21 #2
Shabbat Shalom Mosby Israeli Feb 21 #3
Yet your a self declared "post-Zionist". Mosby Feb 21 #4
I dont think its possible Israeli Feb 22 #6
A bridge too far for some Arab leaders. Mosby Feb 21 #5

Israeli

(4,347 posts)
1. Al-Mujahedeen: The fringe terror group behind murder of Bibas children
Fri Feb 21, 2025, 09:07 AM
Feb 21
Radical Salafi organization operated independently in Gaza for over two decades; faction falsely claims Bibas family was killed in Israeli airstrike, though intel confirms execution while in captivity

The extremist Salafi organization Al-Mujahedeen (Lords of the Wilderness) is the group that held Shiri Bibas and her two young children, Ariel and Kfir, after they were abducted from Kibbutz Nir Oz during the Hamas-led October 7 attack. According to Israeli assessments, the group murdered them in captivity as early as November 2023.

Al-Mujahedeen was founded at the start of the Second Intifada in 2001, breaking away from Fatah. It initially operated as a faction of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades before becoming an independent militant group. The organization follows a radical Salafi ideology, which seeks to return to what it considers the fundamental roots of Islam, advocating extreme measures to achieve its goals.

The group was initially led by Omar Abu-Sharia, whom Israel attempted to eliminate in 2006. He succumbed to his injuries six months later. Over the years, Al-Mujahedeen has carried out numerous attacks and has positioned itself as a violent extremist faction within Gaza. Unlike Hamas, which governs the enclave, Al-Mujahedeen maintains a distinct identity, often aligning with global jihadist movements.

During the ongoing war in Gaza, the organization claimed to have suffered significant losses, including key members of its leadership. In April 2023, it announced the deaths of several senior operatives, including the commander of its rocket unit in central Gaza, a senior figure in the Deir al-Balah battalion, and a member of its elite unit in the same area.

After the October 7 attack, Hamas transferred some hostages to smaller armed factions, including Al-Mujahedeen. Shiri Bibas and her children were among those handed over. According to Israeli intelligence, they were held in Khan Younis before being murdered. The group falsely claimed that the Bibas family was killed in an Israeli airstrike, but IDF officials have confirmed that the children were brutally executed in captivity.

Al-Mujahedeen's actions underscore the fragmentation of militant groups within Gaza and the brutality faced by hostages held by factions beyond Hamas itself. Israeli authorities continue to demand the return of Shiri Bibas' body, along with all remaining hostages.

Source : https://www.ynetnews.com/magazine/article/hjtwd3hcjg

Yesterday was a day of heartbreak and sadness, sorrow and tears, that we hoped would pass in a dignified manner .
It ended in more pain and anger when it became obvious that what we had feared all along and hoped we were wrong
came true .

Hamas expected five buses to blow up this morning :
https://www.timesofisrael.com/3-buses-explode-in-bat-yam-holon-in-suspected-strategically-planned-terror-attack/

So yes ...... "" In the context of Hamas being particularly sadistic murderers, their outrageous lies don't seem to be especially surprising or revealing, but it does put their recent proposal to release all of the hostages, dead and alive, all at once, gains a whole different perspective, doesn't it? ""




Israeli

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3. Shabbat Shalom Mosby
Fri Feb 21, 2025, 03:35 PM
Feb 21

I do not nor have I EVER supported a One State Solution .

I am a member of Peace Now and have constantly voted Meretz since its conception, both of
which support a Two State Solution .

Nice try tho

Mosby

(18,320 posts)
4. Yet your a self declared "post-Zionist".
Fri Feb 21, 2025, 04:29 PM
Feb 21

I guess I don't fully understand that position.

Shabbat Shalom. I hope you and your family is well.

Israeli

(4,347 posts)
6. I dont think its possible
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 07:25 AM
Feb 22

for you to understand my politics .
you would have to have lived here as long as I have and experienced everything
I have and considering I was born in 1950 its too late for that .

Thank you for asking , my close family are all alive but showing scars since Oct 7th ,
including my grandchildren that are old enough to understand .
My husband and i have a very large extended family between both of us , we lost
five members all in combat since the war started .

Nobody over here is feeling " well " Mosby .





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