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CrispyQ

(38,220 posts)
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 12:05 PM 14 hrs ago

I have a question about terminology: Is queer an offensive term to use?

I ask first, because I don't want to offend, but also when I was young, at least in my neck of the woods, queer was considered offensive. A gay friend of mine says it's still offensive. But recently I've seen queer used on social media & in blogs, & on progressive & pro-LGBT sites, too. I also read a novel a few years ago, where the gay author's gay characters used the word queer to define themselves, so that got me to wondering if things have changed or maybe it's a term that's acceptable for those within the community to use but not others? Apologies if this sounds rude, but the alphabet is frustrating for people cuz they don't remember the order of or all the letters, & a word would be so much easier. If we just say gay, is that inclusive enough?

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I have a question about terminology: Is queer an offensive term to use? (Original Post) CrispyQ 14 hrs ago OP
Funny, odd. Peculiar. Strange and weird that you should ask. jaxexpat 14 hrs ago #1
I think it depends on... Think. Again. 14 hrs ago #2
That's a really good question Random Boomer 14 hrs ago #3
I will stick to gay & not worry about letters. CrispyQ 13 hrs ago #5
The use of the "n word" jumped into my mind right away. BobTheSubgenius 13 hrs ago #6
I'm Bi... FirstLight 13 hrs ago #4
I've always preferred queer over gay Random Boomer 12 hrs ago #7
That also makes sense... FirstLight 9 hrs ago #9
To me...... Butterflylady 10 hrs ago #8

Think. Again.

(17,824 posts)
2. I think it depends on...
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 12:14 PM
14 hrs ago

...whether someone is offended by it or not.

Would you be offended if someone called you Queer? If so, don't use it.

Random Boomer

(4,249 posts)
3. That's a really good question
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 12:21 PM
14 hrs ago

Thanks for asking, because too many people are hesitant to ask respectful questions. You can't learn if you don't ask. Unfortunately, the answer is one of those nuanced issues of "it depends", similar to the n-word.

I, a gay woman in my 70s, use the word "queer" to describe myself, but I came out in the 70s in New York City, so I have an urban political gay perspective. The gay community in that area, as in other metro urban areas of the time, was reclaiming words like queer, faggot, and dyke. We could use those terms, and close allies might also use them, but anyone outside the community using them might not be perceived in the best light.

Meanwhile, in other gay circles outside metro areas, those words are still considered insults by many gays. Now that I live far outside a metro area, I wouldn't use them myself even among other gay people until I had a sense of whether or not they were considered acceptable by the people I'm with.

So my recommendation to anyone who is not gay themselves, or deeply immersed in a gay community and known as a staunch ally, don't use those words. Gay is fine, use that.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,787 posts)
6. The use of the "n word" jumped into my mind right away.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 01:26 PM
13 hrs ago

My late and very dear friend Marc used to describe himself as "faggot", but I don't know if he used it generally, or just among people he trusted. I cringe every time I watch Pulp Fiction and SLJ yells "You're my Negro!!!" into the phone while talking with Ving Rhames.

I believe it costs us absolutely nothing to use words that don't offend...or even have the possibility of offending, if you don't know for sure. The English language has many words.

FirstLight

(14,057 posts)
4. I'm Bi...
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 12:44 PM
13 hrs ago

and I remember when I was with my ex (female like me) a firend of a friend said "I didn't know you were queer!"

For some reason it felt wrong...like, I never labeled myself as such, and it was also my first same-sex relationship, so it threw me off. I wasn't offended, just felt weird.

It really is a personal thing IMO. My kid is Trans, and I dont think they ues the term to self-describe either...

Maybe it's a regional thing? IDK

Random Boomer

(4,249 posts)
7. I've always preferred queer over gay
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 02:06 PM
12 hrs ago

To me, "queer" is non-specific and less of a label than "gay" or "lesbian." It covers that I'm married to another woman (who is bi), that I lean butch. To me it's a general way to say, I don't meet the traditional expectations for a woman in this culture.

FirstLight

(14,057 posts)
9. That also makes sense...
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:24 PM
9 hrs ago

I guess it's one of those preference things. I only see it as a slur when uttered as one...otherwise it's not a biggie.

Butterflylady

(3,980 posts)
8. To me......
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 04:20 PM
10 hrs ago

Words aren't the problem.....it's the listeners who give words the meaning....in otherwards take the word old. I'm old and I'm not mad being told I'm old, however, some people don't like being told their old and find the word offensive. I don't take offense to any words. Words are just words until someone gives them meaning.

The only thing I take offense to is lying.

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