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Jilly_in_VA

(10,875 posts)
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 12:22 PM Oct 2021

Alzheimer's: The heretical and hopeful role of infection

It is more than 150 years since scientists proved that invisible germs could cause contagious illnesses such as cholera, typhoid, and tuberculosis. The role of microbes in these diseases was soon widely accepted, but "Germ Theory" has continued to surprise ever since – with huge implications for many apparently unrelated areas of medicine.

It was only in the 1980s, after all, that two Australian scientists found that Helicobacter Pylori triggers stomach ulcers. Before that, doctors had blamed the condition on stress, cigarettes and booze. Contemporary scientists considered the idea to be "preposterous", yet it eventually earned the Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine in 2005.

The discovery that the human papillomavirus can cause cervical cancer proved to be similarly controversial, but vaccines against the infection are now saving thousands of lives. Scientists today estimate that around 12% of all human cancers are caused by viruses.

We may be witnessing a similar revolution in our understanding of Alzheimer's disease. Lifestyle and genetic factors certainly play a role in the development of the illness. But it looks increasingly possible that some common viruses and bacteria – the kinds that give us cold sores and gum disease – may, over the long term, trigger the death of neural tissue and a steady cognitive decline. If so, infections may be one of the leading causes of the dementia.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20211006-what-if-dormant-microbes-trigger-alzheimers
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Alzheimer's: The heretical and hopeful role of infection (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Oct 2021 OP
I hope that researchers will finally conclude that Alzheimer's is several diseases with similar question everything Oct 2021 #1
autoimmune diseases, too. mopinko Oct 2021 #2
It's been pretty well proven Jilly_in_VA Oct 2021 #3
i'll check it out. my sister's ms most def kicked off by a virus. mopinko Oct 2021 #4

question everything

(48,776 posts)
1. I hope that researchers will finally conclude that Alzheimer's is several diseases with similar
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 12:28 PM
Oct 2021

symptoms.

Different causes and paths.

Millions have already been spent on studies to find a treatment and when "only" 10% or so reacted, the studies were abandoned.

I hope that someday researchers will concentrate on this subset of a population that benefits from a treatment.






mopinko

(71,789 posts)
2. autoimmune diseases, too.
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 10:28 PM
Oct 2021

i fear we are about to learn a lot more about just how much viruses fuck w us.

Jilly_in_VA

(10,875 posts)
3. It's been pretty well proven
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 08:26 AM
Oct 2021

that many auto-immune diseases hit us after a viral infection. Type I diabetes is almost universally acknowledged to be one of those. And most of them hit us when our immune system is low for one reason or another. There was a very good article in a recent issue of Scientific American, either August or September. Very readable. I'm sorry I don't have the link but it shouldn't be hard to find.

mopinko

(71,789 posts)
4. i'll check it out. my sister's ms most def kicked off by a virus.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 08:53 AM
Oct 2021

she was living w her MIL, and they both got it. i mean....
i used to hang out there a lot and have a sneaking suspicion i have a very mild case as well.

having west nile kicked my shit into high gear, and i've been fighting w docs ever since.
my pcp at the time thought so, but she sent me to specialists who mostly just shook their heads.
still dont rly have a true dx, just a cluster of oddball autoimmune tests and suck ass symptoms.

and btw, this is a check box on the psyche checklists. MI is still in the dark ages as far as i can tell.
women still getting called crazy cuz docs dont listen to them.

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