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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:19 PM Jan 2019

Anyone know paint?

We're getting our home fumigated.
There is termite damaged exterior wood that will be replaced.

The company said they will put a coat of primer before installing or paint that we get to match.

I went to a paint store Sherwin Williams and got the paint color matched from a sample paint chip, they made the gallon, then told me it needs primer. In fact they said ALL bare wood needs primer.
I called the termite this and they said some paint has a primer built in.

Now I'm confused. Primer or not?
Should I just have the termite company use the paint I bought or have them primer it, install it, and then I could paint it I guess?

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Anyone know paint? (Original Post) SHRED Jan 2019 OP
Yes LunaSea Jan 2019 #1
Preferably Kilz2. ZZenith Jan 2019 #2
Good point! LunaSea Jan 2019 #6
Thank you SHRED Jan 2019 #3
Yeah, demand primer. Sherwin-Williams is KPN Jan 2019 #5
Ok, ok, I got it 2naSalit Jan 2019 #4
yes, primer handmade34 Jan 2019 #7
Definitely better to use a separate primer. SeattleVet Jan 2019 #8
If it's wood siding it's a good idea to back prime it. rusty quoin Jan 2019 #9
What I said. Back-prime rusty quoin Jan 2019 #12
Primer. The paint just won't stick properly without it. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #10
I went through this last year CountAllVotes Jan 2019 #11
Might be late with advice but cate94 Feb 2019 #13

LunaSea

(2,926 posts)
1. Yes
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:22 PM
Jan 2019

Get some or request the KILZ brand primer, it will help with bug and mold/mildew issues in the future.
Bare wood should always be primed, despite what the paint brand says about no need for it. It will extend the life of the paint job by several years.

LunaSea

(2,926 posts)
6. Good point!
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:32 PM
Jan 2019

Bare wood is going to soak up a lot of paint, and the gallon you bought won't go as far without priming.
You can get five gallons of the Kilz2 for around 60-75 dollars. The leftover will come in handy for later projects. Just seal it up well and give it a shake or stir every now and then. I'm still using remnants from a mural project several years later.

KPN

(16,098 posts)
5. Yeah, demand primer. Sherwin-Williams is
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:31 PM
Jan 2019

a good source in my experience ... and they make great products durability and application wise. Go with their advice.

Have you treated the ground around the founation for termites?

2naSalit

(92,635 posts)
4. Ok, ok, I got it
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:28 PM
Jan 2019

Ask the termite guy if their primer has the stuff like Lunasea mentioned, if not, get 'em some and let them put it on and finish their gig. Then you and finish paint with the gallon you just bought.

"sat work?

SeattleVet

(5,584 posts)
8. Definitely better to use a separate primer.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:49 PM
Jan 2019

Some paints are called 'self-priming', that actually contain no primer, and I don't see how they can be anywhere as effective as a separate primer coat. The primer will help the paint coat adhere, and, if you use Kilz or something similar it will help to control mold problems.

Depending on the color you are using for the finish coat(s), you can use a light (white) or dark (usually grey) primer so you don't have to apply as much of the topcoats.

Here's some good background info on the use of primers and what 'self-priming' paint is actually good for:

https://www.thespruce.com/self-priming-paint-real-or-scam-1822383

CountAllVotes

(21,057 posts)
11. I went through this last year
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 10:54 AM
Jan 2019

There was dry rot but no termites.

What you need to do it get rid of the termites and dry rot first. You need to hire a contractor to do this and have it all removed and replaced with new wood before you can proceed. Check all windows as well and replace them if necessary. It will cost you, believe me.

After the dry rot/termites are done and gone, then the paint.

You need to hire a painting company to do a decent job.

First, they wash down the entire house with a pressure washer that will clean the debris, etc. off of the house.

Next, you need to have all of the nails set and then comes the primer. The entire house should be primed after the nails are set.

Now you can have the painting done. I would not recommend Sherwin-Williams and their product called "Super Paint". It supposedly removes the priming part of the job but does it work? I read the reviews of this paint and was unimpressed as they wanted to paint the house with this. I called the Sherwin-Williams store where I live and even they were hard pressed to recommend it.

The old painter I hired with his son has been in this business for many years. He used what he called "Peterson" paint on the house. His son hit the back of the house where the southern exposure gets hit hard with sun, he gave it 3 coats.

It took almost a week to do the job but they did a fine job. They put some of the paint samples I had picked out on a small patch on the back of the house. It did not look anything like the samples! I decided to change the colors to a more muted scheme.

It worked out really good and I hope you can find a place to do a good job. Don't skimp as it is not worth it.

The job I had done last year is good for 10-15 years if I live to see it!

Best of luck SHRED!

cate94

(2,888 posts)
13. Might be late with advice but
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 08:38 PM
Feb 2019

Agree with the suggestions of Kilz or Zinnser. An alcohol based primer is your best bet, however, it will stink and you will need to make sure you have adequate ventilation. The good news is that it dries quickly, and can be repainted in a short time. Hope this helps.

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