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Related: About this forumPreliminary plans for my COVID-19 orchard
Work continues on the COVID-19 garden and I'll post an update on that soon. I've had some time to do some research, thinking, measuring and such for the future orchard.
The goal is to maximize the use of space to produce a variety of fruits over as long a time as possible during the growing season. To achieve this, I'll be applying techniques used in the backyard orchard culture movement. BOC is high density planting of several varieties to get successive ripening.
After much measuring and reading, this is what I ought to be able to plant in the remaining part of the backyard that isn't going to be taken up by the vegetable garden.
8 apple trees
4 pear trees
4 plum trees
4 peach trees
1 quince tree
2 elderberry bushes
24 raspberry plants
3 blueberry bushes
4 haskap bushes
The raspberries will be plants on 1 40' row while the blueberry and haskap bushes will be planted on the 40' row to the east of the raspberry row. The trees will be planting in 5 separate groups of 4 18' apart in a 10' square and kept pruned to keep the trees at a height and spread of no more then 8'. The quince tree is self pollinating and will be planted by itself to the northwest of the house. The two elderberry bushes will be planted to the east of the storage shack about 8' from each other.
The first step will be to cut down several trees in the ditch makes the southern border of the orchard. My son-in-law and neighbor will be doing that task. They both burn wood for heat so it's a plus for them. The second thing I have to do is get another 10 cubic yards of topsoil to build up raised rows and raised berms as the area remains quite wet during the spring and after a heavy rainfall.
Squinch
(52,714 posts)Major Nikon
(36,900 posts)Currently I have none, but will probably plant one or more in the early spring.
The last fruit trees I had were one each of two different varietals of peach trees which produced at different times. At their peak I had way more peaches than I knew what to do with even after culling about 2/3rds of them when they were marble sized. Even with canning and making every peach dish I could think up, I was still giving away most of them. I suspect the stone fruit trees are all going to produce over about a 3 month period even if you get varietals that produce at different times. Thats going to be a lot of work harvesting everything and dealing with them. Im guessing with that many you plan on selling them at a farmers market. Otherwise youll easily be overwhelmed.
Cherry trees are a lot of fun and might be worth considering. Its rather nice to pick and eat them immediately while they are producing.
Kaleva
(38,141 posts)Most whom live within easy walking distance of me and my wife.
Fresh_Start
(11,341 posts)at least for me they seem to be more vigorous and prolific than plums
Kaleva
(38,141 posts)Fresh_Start
(11,341 posts)but obviously I'm wrong.
Kaleva
(38,141 posts)And would seriously have considered them had they been suitable for my zone.
Fresh_Start
(11,341 posts)So from growing pretty much nothing...we now have apricots, peaches, nectarines, pluerries, pears, asian pears, plums, pluots, apples, cherries, blueberries, blackberries, raspberries, oranges, grapefruit, lemons, limes, mandarins, and figs. And pomegranates.
I've had zero luck with kiwis and avocadoes and currents.
Bananas went crazy and I pulled them out.
Fresh_Start
(11,341 posts)but I found it really helpful in our planning.
https://www.davewilson.com/sites/default/files/assets/fruit_nut_chart_hg_2018.pdf
WhiteTara
(30,152 posts)If not, don't expect any fruit for about 7 years. The elderberries will begin to produce in the 2nd or 3rd year, but again, expect about 7 years for a good harvest. Elderberries have a tendency (hahahaha) to take over, so leave room for that. You can dig up roots, cut down shoots, whatever, but they do not believe in staying in boundaries.
Raspberries, blueberries, blackberries, strawberries are more immediate and produce after a year or two.
Good luck. I'm still waiting for cherries from my trees and when they come, they are going to be divine!
Kaleva
(38,141 posts)My goal is to have a garden and orchard that can provide produce for my immediate family, most of whom live within walking distance, for years to come and long after I'm gone. My family history suggests my time is very short, I'm 61 now, or I have another 25-30 years in me. It's one of the two.
Thanks for the tip on elderberries. I may rethink having them or maybe consider putting them in another spot in the yard further away from the vegetable garden and orchard.
WhiteTara
(30,152 posts)starts to others to keep them under control as well. I do mow them under in a few places.