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Hasan Piker Just Gave His Millions Of Followers A Masterclass In What Not To Do When Detained By CBP
from the don't-be-a-piker dept
Tue, May 13th 2025 10:45am - Mike Masnick
Progressive streamer Hasan Pikers recent detention by CBP at the Chicago airport has generated widespread outrage and rightfully so. No US citizen should be interrogated about their political beliefs when re-entering their own country. But while CBPs behavior was egregious, Pikers response was potentially even more dangerous: he chose to engage in a two-hour conversation with federal agents without a lawyer present, streaming about it afterward as if this were just more content for his millions of followers. For many years, weve called out this kind of bullshit interrogation technique of citizens at the border (it didnt start with Trump, though its almost certainly gotten worse with him in power).
Rather than following the basic rule of only showing his passport, answering the most basic travel-related questions and requesting a lawyer if they asked further questions, Piker chose to engage in an extended dialogue with CBP officials about his political views, beliefs about Hamas, and even past Twitch bans. He turned what should have just been a clear story of an unfortunately common constitutional violation into potential legal ammunition against himself. As Taylor Lorenz reported:
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He totally misunderstands the shit hes in here. Yes, part of this is intimidation and trying to get him to shut up when talking publicly, but while they have detained him they want him to talk away because thats how he fucks himself. You are bound to say something at some point that can be used against you. Even if youre positive you havent.
If you think this sounds paranoid, just watch this essential lecture by law professor James Duane explaining why you should never talk to law enforcement without a lawyer present. The lecture is followed by 20 minutes of a police officer basically confirming everything Duane says and emphasizing that you should never, ever talk to law enforcement without a lawyer, and explaining how he (and other cops) are great at convincing you to talk against your best interest:
Theres a lot in there, but he explains why you should never talk to law enforcement without a lawyer even if youre innocent, you only tell the truth, dont reveal anything incriminating, and the entire interview is taped. Because even then what you say can be used against you in ways you dont expect. And, as he notes, what you say can never be used in your favor in such circumstances.
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from the don't-be-a-piker dept
Tue, May 13th 2025 10:45am - Mike Masnick
Progressive streamer Hasan Pikers recent detention by CBP at the Chicago airport has generated widespread outrage and rightfully so. No US citizen should be interrogated about their political beliefs when re-entering their own country. But while CBPs behavior was egregious, Pikers response was potentially even more dangerous: he chose to engage in a two-hour conversation with federal agents without a lawyer present, streaming about it afterward as if this were just more content for his millions of followers. For many years, weve called out this kind of bullshit interrogation technique of citizens at the border (it didnt start with Trump, though its almost certainly gotten worse with him in power).
Rather than following the basic rule of only showing his passport, answering the most basic travel-related questions and requesting a lawyer if they asked further questions, Piker chose to engage in an extended dialogue with CBP officials about his political views, beliefs about Hamas, and even past Twitch bans. He turned what should have just been a clear story of an unfortunately common constitutional violation into potential legal ammunition against himself. As Taylor Lorenz reported:
{snip}
He totally misunderstands the shit hes in here. Yes, part of this is intimidation and trying to get him to shut up when talking publicly, but while they have detained him they want him to talk away because thats how he fucks himself. You are bound to say something at some point that can be used against you. Even if youre positive you havent.
If you think this sounds paranoid, just watch this essential lecture by law professor James Duane explaining why you should never talk to law enforcement without a lawyer present. The lecture is followed by 20 minutes of a police officer basically confirming everything Duane says and emphasizing that you should never, ever talk to law enforcement without a lawyer, and explaining how he (and other cops) are great at convincing you to talk against your best interest:
Don't Talk to the Police
Regent University School of Law
20,780,860 Views
Mar 20 2012
Regent Law Professor James Duane gives viewers startling reasons why they should always exercise their 5th Amendment rights when questioned by government officials. Download his article on the topic at http://papers.ssrn.com....
His best-selling book on the same subject, You Have the Right to Remain Innocent, can be found at https://www.amazon.com...
Regent University School of Law
81.6K subscribers
Regent University School of Law
20,780,860 Views
Mar 20 2012
Regent Law Professor James Duane gives viewers startling reasons why they should always exercise their 5th Amendment rights when questioned by government officials. Download his article on the topic at http://papers.ssrn.com....
His best-selling book on the same subject, You Have the Right to Remain Innocent, can be found at https://www.amazon.com...
Regent University School of Law
81.6K subscribers
Theres a lot in there, but he explains why you should never talk to law enforcement without a lawyer even if youre innocent, you only tell the truth, dont reveal anything incriminating, and the entire interview is taped. Because even then what you say can be used against you in ways you dont expect. And, as he notes, what you say can never be used in your favor in such circumstances.
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Either that or Im posting from a phone, an iPhone SE, the one with the bite-size screen. I have to post articles in bits and pieces, saving as I go. I have managed to delete pages during the posting process, so I find that saving my work as I post is the safe way to go, even if it makes for confusing posts along the way.
Any more than that, Ill want an attorney present.
And good morning. Its still drizzling in Alexandria.