Should gun store sales get special credit card tracking? States split on mandating or prohibiting it

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https://apnews.com/article/gun-stores-firearms-mass-shootings-credit-cards-abe3a28ea7117340d9a4a8bcde3693fe

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Should gun store sales get special credit card tracking? States split on mandating or prohibiting it

A national divide is emerging among states over whether to track sales by gun stores.

BY DAVID A. LIEB
Updated 12:37 AM EDT, June 30, 2024

Beginning Monday, a California law will require credit card networks like Visa and Mastercard to provide banks with special retail codes that can be assigned to gun stores in order to track their sales.

But new laws will do the exact opposite in Georgia, Iowa, Tennessee and Wyoming by banning the use of specific gun shop codes.

The conflicting laws highlight what has quietly emerged as one of the nation’s newest gun policy debates, dividing state capitols along familiar partisan lines.

Some Democratic lawmakers and gun-control activists hope the new retail tracking code will help financial institutions flag suspicious gun-related purchases for law enforcement agencies, potentially averting mass shootings and other crimes. Lawmakers in Colorado and New York have followed California’s lead.

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[MichMan]

1. The ATF doesnt already have information on gun sales?

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4. Some? Absolutely.

The purchase records are kept by the FFL, but are turned over to the ATF if they close. The ATF also has access to the FFL's records.

The ATF is prohibited from using the information to create a registry. Currently that also means they can't create a searchable database of the sales that they do have records on.

[beemerphill]

2. Bad Precedent

If this is legal states can ask credit card companies to track the purchase of abortion drugs. Depending on the current political climate, they can also be asked to track anything the states may think needs tracking. It would also be a back-door attempt to create a list of firearms owners. This is against the law.

[Irish_Dem]

3. Men buying guns will never be tracked. Only pregnant women will be tracked and monitored.

[yagotme]

5. Does this mean that women buying guns WILL be tracked?

Men buying guns will never be tracked.

Women DO buy guns. Not at the rate of men, but they do. Are they going to be tracked?

[Irish_Dem]

6. Any male dominated activity will not be tracked.

Males will not tolerate their hobbies, interests and pursuits being tracked.

So women gun owners are probably safe for the time being.

[yagotme]

8. A CC store tracking number doesn't differentiate between the sexes.

Your post seemed to. Just observing.

[Irish_Dem]

9. My goodness. Times have changed quite a bit recently.

Women are being treated as second class citizens.

To think they would be treated equally in any given situation is not reality.

My point is that men's activities will not be tracked.

[yagotme]

10. My point is that the codes don't differentiate between sexes.

Women participate in the shooting sports, also. Just seems you are leaving women out, as you complain about them not being treated equally. A double standard, if you will.

[yagotme]

7. Part of the problem right here:

Even with a firearms store code, it won’t be possible to know whether a particular sale is for a rifle, storage safe or some other product such as hunting apparel.

Or a bow. Or a hunting blind, etc.

[The Mouth]

11. Absolutly hell no

Voting and gun ownership should be subject to the exact same rules: if you can't get a gun, you can't vote, you should need the same amount of ID for either, and if they can track guns then they should be able to track votes.

Fortunately this will get tossed, I hope (along with every other gun law since we passed the 2nd amendment).