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The victim, Devyn Holmes, was in a car with a woman and another man who were playing with two guns..."You're making me nervous," Holmes says in the Facebook Live, captured outside a (closed) Valero gas station...in Houston.
(S)omeone called the police, and claimed that Devyn shot himself in the head...
According to this ABC.13.com video from the gas station camera, Devyn enters the car, then Cassandra, then Coleman a few minutes later. They were all in there approximately nine minutes.
The victim is currently responsive and in stable condition after surgery.
Link to cell phone video -- very graphic, but the first 27 seconds need to be looked at because you see Cassandra pull the trigger (the gun just clicks), then chamber and raise the gun before it went off -- which is why I smell a setup. Either:
- Coleman and Cassandra set up Holmes by convincing him to "squash their beef" in person: Sure, the meeting took place at 2AM in the parking lot of a closed business -- but with Cassandra in tow (as a "peace offering," perhaps?), a Facebook live stream going, and allegedly unloaded guns, why would Holmes have any cause for mistrust?
Or:
- Coleman set up Cassandra to believe she would be firing an empty gun in order to embarrass Holmes online with a "Russian roulette" style April Fool's joke.
It all depends on whether or not it's possible to chamber a bullet when:
a) there is no magazine in the gun
b) there is no magazine in the gun, but there is a bullet in the chamber
c) there is neither a magazine nor a bullet in the chamber of the gun
d) there is an empty magazine in the gun
e) there is an empty magazine in the gun, but there is a bullet in the chamber
rocktivity
tblue37
(66,035 posts)They didn't even exclaim in dismay--they just calmly exited the car as he sat there helpless and bleeding.
7962
(11,841 posts)People shoot themselves a lot thinking the gun is empty because theres no magazine in it. Not thinking about the possible round in the chamber
rocktivity
(44,883 posts)Last edited Wed Apr 4, 2018, 07:14 PM - Edit history (2)
but you can if it contains an empty magazine -- with or without a bullet in the chamber?
rocktivity
SQUEE
(1,320 posts)The slide will hold open, not slide forward.
I don't believe their story.
marble falls
(62,041 posts)thumb back the hammer, if its not already cocked and pull the trigger. We had a "church shooting" here in Texas recently. Someone had pulled the clip and ejected the chambered round and handed it to person number 1. Then replaced the clip and jacked a round. The second person he showed off his pistol to got shot when the guy pulled the clip, hammered back on what he thought was a cleared chamber and pulled the trigger. He forgot he had re-chambered a round. This was a licensed concealed weapon permit holder. He was one of two guys the church had asked to be armed during services.
I don't go to my church anymore over the two guys armed at our church during services. One of them is over eighty.
7962
(11,841 posts)Jeeze. The first rule of handling a firearm is to treat it as loaded.
Shame you had to leave because of such nonsense. But who could blame you?
7962
(11,841 posts)But you can't chamber a round without a magazine containing one.
rocktivity
(44,883 posts)Last edited Thu Jul 15, 2021, 03:04 PM - Edit history (3)
But that means that since Cassandra was able to cock the gun (and she didn't look inexperienced at it), she either knew or should have known that
a) the gun HAD to have contained a magazine (regardless of what Coleman said); and
b) she had just readied a bullet to be fired.
They're both guilty of first-degree murder and conspiracy -- or will be, now that their victim has been declared brain dead.
rocktivity
mikeysnot
(4,772 posts)fuck.
rocktivity
(44,883 posts)He's been declared brain dead -- which ups the ante to premeditated murder.
rocktivity
mikeysnot
(4,772 posts)when I read.... Not anymore...
Gun fondlers keeping it real.
Rocknation
(44,883 posts).
Rocknation
(44,883 posts)She pleaded guilty...after the April 2018 shooting of Devyn Holmes...(who) survived, but has had to undergo rigorous rehab since then...A judge ruled in favor of granting (Damper) "shock" probation...(after serving)...six months...(and) will lay out the conditions of her probation for the next nine and a half years.
Damper's attorney...praised the judge's decision..."I don't consider this a 'get out of jail free' card...(T)his is a judge...using all the tools in his box to apply justice in this case...(by) coming up with other means...of just incarceration..."
I suspect that it was something in Damper's toolbox that made her nine years of probation possible -- her ability to snitch.
Rocknation