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usonian

(16,826 posts)
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 01:42 AM Jan 25

Touchscreen dashboards have finally taken over and ruined driving

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/features/touchscreen-dashboards-have-taken-over/

Physical buttons are being consigned to history – but trying to prod a screen while navigating our famously poor road surfaces isn’t easy

James Foxall
23 January 2025 7:30am GMT


2021 Mercedes EQS


1980 Mercedes W123

Regarding how we interact with our cars, whether petrol or electric, victory has gone to the touchscreen – at least as far as one premium manufacturer is concerned. Despite overwhelming safety evidence to the contrary, BMW has decided that selecting in-car functions using its intuitive rotary controller will be for used-car buyers only.

On BMW’s next-generation Neue Klasse cars, beginning with the iX3 SUV launching this summer, drivers will have no choice but to use touchscreens. Its German rival Mercedes even offers a full-width dashboard consisting of three screens, called Hyperscreen (pictured above in the EQS, compared with the analogue, hewn-from-solid facia of the 1980s W123 Mercedes model).

They won’t be alone. An S&P Global Mobility survey of car owners found that 97 per cent of new cars released after 2023 contain at least one touchscreen.

...

Why touchscreens took over
Chris Longmore, from the automotive design consultancy Drive, believes the touchscreen takeover is largely cost-driven. He said: “Tesla showed the way. By having everything on the screen, you can reduce the tooling needed to make switches and maybe going forwards do away with centre consoles altogether and [the cost of] making the panels you need for them.”


More at the link.

All my idiot touchscreen (2018) does is play the radio, and cycle through services that I don't get, and it's still too distracting for all the blind curves in my area.
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Touchscreen dashboards have finally taken over and ruined driving (Original Post) usonian Jan 25 OP
I mostly agree with this. It is more difficult to change Ilsa Jan 25 #1
Ja Hyperscreen. Fuck that. Klarkashton Jan 25 #2
I hate touchscreens. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 25 #3
I like the touchscreens Homoudont Feb 6 #4
I like my steering wheel buttons and voice commands, and no stalks. CoopersDad Mar 16 #5
Voice commands worked for me, but I got divorced. usonian Mar 16 #6
For one of my jobs I tested a variety of EVs, pre-tesla CoopersDad Mar 16 #7
Wow, you sure take testing seriously. usonian Mar 16 #8

Ilsa

(62,656 posts)
1. I mostly agree with this. It is more difficult to change
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 01:47 AM
Jan 25

AC & heat sources using the touchscreen, but my car has up and down temp buttons.

Entertainment is mostly a mess. I can use steering wheel buttons to change stations, but those buttons are too small.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,634 posts)
3. I hate touchscreens.
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 06:11 PM
Jan 25

I don't like tablets or most phones.
If my PC has a touchscreen, I disable it from device manager.

Homoudont

(104 posts)
4. I like the touchscreens
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 08:50 AM
Feb 6

I really like the touch screens for navigation. I prefer regular controls for shifting, temp etc. I own two EV's with big touch screens and prefer the Chevy Bolt EUV over my VW ID.4 in terms of controls. The soft touch buttons on the ID.4 aren't as nice as the old school controls on my Chevy Bolt. And the Bolt is 1/2 the price.

CoopersDad

(3,128 posts)
5. I like my steering wheel buttons and voice commands, and no stalks.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 08:25 PM
Mar 16

That Mercedes dash is horrid, and many or most of the ICU brands moving toward EVs are making the mistake of keeping buttons and switches and/or making their screens look like buttons and switches. Sigh.

I rarely need to touch the screen in a Tesla while driving. Mostly temp control adjustments but those are all accessible through voice commands.

usonian

(16,826 posts)
6. Voice commands worked for me, but I got divorced.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 08:59 PM
Mar 16

Amazing how many things just replace people. Some go way beyond, like cell phones.

Think about it.

P.S. I did all the driving, so it was my navigator giving the commands.

Just avoid the nasty jokes while you’re driving. Tessie might do something rash.

Software. ouch.

CoopersDad

(3,128 posts)
7. For one of my jobs I tested a variety of EVs, pre-tesla
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:21 PM
Mar 16

But had a friend with an original Tesla Roadster-- crazy fast.

A Ford Focus EV was fun but bricked a few days into my one week trial, 12V battery died.

A Mitsubishi MiEV was fun but very basic.

There was the Chevy Volt and eventually I bought one and it was struck by an angry truck driver.

I had taken my wife to try every EV on the market around 2018 and she waiting for the Tesla Model Y and then got one and I learned on that how the whole thing works.

I hate Musk but the car was developed by others and one of only few designed from the ground up to be an EV.

usonian

(16,826 posts)
8. Wow, you sure take testing seriously.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:36 PM
Mar 16

You can always put a Mazda or Audi sticker over the emblem if people give you trouble.

If you look over the tech landscape, so many things were bought. DOS, Powerpoint for sure. I really don’t know who who invented PayPal, but that whole sick crowd (plus Reid Hoffman, a genuinely nice and liberal guy) bought in. And so it goes.

They’re called the PayPal Mafia. Musk and Thiel for sure.

I want to remind the maga creeps that America is named for Amerigo Vespucci, an Italian explorer.


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