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Old Crank

(5,461 posts)
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 06:41 AM Feb 22

Are motor vehicles safer?

And for whom?
If you count by vehicle miles travelled motor vehicles are much safer. they are safer still in Europe.
If you count by deaths per capita we are still killing people at the same rate as in 1921.

Why the discrepancy? Vehicle safety mandates (regulations) and road construction mandates to make it safer to be in a vehicle. Seat belts, airbags, crumplezones all make it safer to be IN a motor vehicle. Also the breakaway posts, clear zones beside highspeed roads all make it safer for drivers.
Now it is becoming more dangerous for those outside the motor vehicles. Huge wall front ends, bigger heavier vehicles, more powerful vehicles, no safety rails (as in Europe) between the wheels of trucks, lack of visibilty from the drivers seat around the vehicles. All are adding up to more deaths for pedestrians and cyclists.



More data here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_fatality_rate_in_U.S._by_year

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Are motor vehicles safer? (Original Post) Old Crank Feb 22 OP
They haven't even considered silent ev's & how easily people could be run over SheltieLover Feb 22 #1
Tire noise is louder than engine noise Old Crank Feb 22 #3
EVs and PHEVs are required to generate false engine noise under 23 mph Thunderbeast Feb 22 #4
Are the drivers any better? Historic NY Feb 22 #2

SheltieLover

(65,673 posts)
1. They haven't even considered silent ev's & how easily people could be run over
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 06:45 AM
Feb 22

Because they are completely silent.

Old Crank

(5,461 posts)
3. Tire noise is louder than engine noise
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 08:13 AM
Feb 22

at over 20 mph. Except for peopel having modified exhaust systems. So EVs aren't completely silent.

Thunderbeast

(3,626 posts)
4. EVs and PHEVs are required to generate false engine noise under 23 mph
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 01:25 PM
Feb 22

Federal law prohibits the disabling of these external speakers.

Historic NY

(38,722 posts)
2. Are the drivers any better?
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 07:42 AM
Feb 22

All the bells and whistles and gizmos manufacturers develop, can't fix the human element.

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