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What's the reasoning behind FSU being snubbed for a bowl game? (Original Post) KS Toronado Dec 2023 OP
I can only gue$$. Sneederbunk Dec 2023 #1
I thought they were playing Georgia in the ORange Bowl. I've heard walkingman Dec 2023 #2
They were snubbed from the playoff caraher Dec 2023 #16
From listening to some analysts, their (committee) decision to asiliveandbreathe Dec 2023 #3
The BCS committee likely figured FSU wouldn't attract as big of a tv audience as Alabama, an SEC team. sop Dec 2023 #4
That is the real reason. No reason to play on the field. Lochloosa Dec 2023 #9
So we're back to "Follow the money" KS Toronado Dec 2023 #13
As much as I hate Alabama, I think it was the right choice. calguy Dec 2023 #18
Yes, but their quarterback JordanTravis, had a season ending leg injury late in the season. rsdsharp Dec 2023 #5
They were not ranked in the top 4 in the playoff Raven123 Dec 2023 #6
We were ranked 4 going into our final game. Lochloosa Dec 2023 #8
And FSU should have moved up in the rankings after Georgia lost in the SEC championship to Alabama. sop Dec 2023 #15
The "official" reason was an injury to a key player and strength of schedule. Lochloosa Dec 2023 #7
3rd string QB and still winning games and still undefeated KS Toronado Dec 2023 #14
my take on this stopdiggin Dec 2023 #10
They are the "Seminoles" wanderer54 Dec 2023 #11
That's right. I blew that one. And I should know better stopdiggin Dec 2023 #12
Are They Better Than Washington? ProfessorGAC Dec 2023 #17

walkingman

(8,324 posts)
2. I thought they were playing Georgia in the ORange Bowl. I've heard
Fri Dec 8, 2023, 06:13 PM
Dec 2023

rumors but nothing official? If they are playing a boycott, I think that would be cutting off your nose to spite your face.

caraher

(6,307 posts)
16. They were snubbed from the playoff
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 10:34 AM
Dec 2023

You're right - they were invited to play the game you mention. But they can't make it to the championship game

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
3. From listening to some analysts, their (committee) decision to
Fri Dec 8, 2023, 06:15 PM
Dec 2023

select Alabama in, FSU out..based partly on FSU not having a QB healthy enough to compete. Too, Alabama fresh off beating Georgia..my two cents..

sop

(11,162 posts)
4. The BCS committee likely figured FSU wouldn't attract as big of a tv audience as Alabama, an SEC team.
Fri Dec 8, 2023, 06:15 PM
Dec 2023

Lochloosa

(16,401 posts)
9. That is the real reason. No reason to play on the field.
Fri Dec 8, 2023, 06:23 PM
Dec 2023

Just pick the top 4 money makers and play two games.

KS Toronado

(19,558 posts)
13. So we're back to "Follow the money"
Sat Dec 9, 2023, 12:32 AM
Dec 2023

Even with their best QB hurt they have backups, real shame a 13 & 0 team gets no bowl game.

calguy

(5,763 posts)
18. As much as I hate Alabama, I think it was the right choice.
Sat Dec 16, 2023, 10:35 PM
Dec 2023

I would have thought Georgia also deserved a spot, but there's only four spots, so some are going to feel they were screwed.Expanded playoff next year will fix all that.

rsdsharp

(10,114 posts)
5. Yes, but their quarterback JordanTravis, had a season ending leg injury late in the season.
Fri Dec 8, 2023, 06:17 PM
Dec 2023

That was apparently the rationale for keeping FSU out of the playoffs; they are not the same team without him.

Raven123

(6,028 posts)
6. They were not ranked in the top 4 in the playoff
Fri Dec 8, 2023, 06:17 PM
Dec 2023

As I understand, they are playing Georgia in a bowl. Although undefeated, the loss of their QB a few games back affected their final ranking.

sop

(11,162 posts)
15. And FSU should have moved up in the rankings after Georgia lost in the SEC championship to Alabama.
Sat Dec 9, 2023, 07:43 AM
Dec 2023

The BCS committee's prognostications about which teams would have beaten other teams are nonsense. Let the teams with the best records play. If the committee can predict wins and losses, why even bother to have a playoff? That's why they started the playoff system, and why the playoff system is being expanded: so a biased committee could no longer select a national champion.

Lochloosa

(16,401 posts)
7. The "official" reason was an injury to a key player and strength of schedule.
Fri Dec 8, 2023, 06:20 PM
Dec 2023

Both are BS. We beat the two SEC teams we played. We also won against the 14th ranked team for the ACC championship with our 3rd string quarterback.

The real reason? Money and Alabama.

KS Toronado

(19,558 posts)
14. 3rd string QB and still winning games and still undefeated
Sat Dec 9, 2023, 12:42 AM
Dec 2023

They should be ranked #1. Be great if the winner of the bowl game they thought they would
be in would agree to play them a week or two later. More money for everybody.

stopdiggin

(12,801 posts)
10. my take on this
Fri Dec 8, 2023, 06:53 PM
Dec 2023

is that the committee legitimately thought there were 4 better teams. And I completely understand FSU feeling like they got hosed - but at the end of the day, were they going to beat Michigan or Bama - neutral field, on the day the selection was made? I don't know the answer to that (and neither does anyone else) - but that is the decision the committee is charged with making. And won/loss record is only part of that determination.

Sorry, Canes. It might blow - but I don't necessarily think it was a big 'fix' or conspiracy.
NCAA has its problems (and its history) - but in this case ... Chances are you just weren't the best team at the end of the season.

Edit: and as several have pointed out - they did get a nice bowl bid. Just not the bowl playoffs.

stopdiggin

(12,801 posts)
12. That's right. I blew that one. And I should know better
Sat Dec 9, 2023, 12:10 AM
Dec 2023

As my alma played both (and cordially hated each by turns) - - - - - - - - - - - - -

ProfessorGAC

(69,808 posts)
17. Are They Better Than Washington?
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 06:26 PM
Dec 2023

WU had a far lower strength of schedule than FSU, but it feels like they git picked because they were undefeated.
So, undefeated in the PAC12 means a #2 ranking, but undefeated in the ACC means "tough luck"? The Math isn't matching.
In addition, I get that because Texas beat Alabama they had to slot them higher, (i guess, but SEC vs. BIG 12 makes that iffy) but why Alabama at 4? Any realistic belief that WA would beat AL?
Michigan got a secondary punishment in this. And, I would think an Alabama/Texas rematch would be bonkers ratings.
Actually, I think this committee just bungled their way through this.

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