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BKH70041

(961 posts)
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 07:08 AM Jun 2014

World Cup 2014 (Predictions)

I'm going to go ahead, stick my neck out, and make my predictions for the WC. Picked a few upsets to make it fun, but overall I feel pretty good about them.

I encourage others to do the same, and then sometime around mid-July we can all look back and laugh at how much we embarrassed ourselves.

I'll start off with group play.

Group: Winner - Runner-up

A: Brazil – Croatia
B: Spain – Holland
C: Colombia – Japan
D: Italy - Uruguay
E: Swiss – France
F: Argentina – Bosnia/Herzegovina
G: Germany – Portugal
H: Belgium – Algeria

Final 8: Argentina, Brazil, Germany, Japan, Portugal, Spain, Swiss, Uruguay

Final 4: Argentina, Brazil, Germany, Spain

Final Game: Argentina vs. Germany

Winner: Germany

I'll say 3:2 in the final.

The final pick was a tough one for me. Argentina has SO MANY attacking players.

Messi, Aguero, Higuain, Mascherano, di Maria, Lavezzi, Palacio......... Where does it end???

But I just think Germany has the better team top to bottom.

Schweinsteiger is just dominant in the middle. And then with Ozil, Muller, Klose, Kroos and others attacking, a solid defense with Mertesacker, Lahm who will work his way from the back into the attack, and Neuer in net, they just seem to have what it takes this year.

Let the games begin!

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World Cup 2014 (Predictions) (Original Post) BKH70041 Jun 2014 OP
Key-rist...an Argie v Kraut finale?? I'd have to root for the ref.... truebrit71 Jun 2014 #1
538 predicts England making it out Capt. Obvious Jun 2014 #3
No way Uruguay wins that group... truebrit71 Jun 2014 #5
Any idea who the ref will be for the final? Aquavit Jun 2014 #20
It'll depend on who's in it Ron Obvious Jun 2014 #21
Looks like I'm rooting for the ref... truebrit71 Jul 2014 #33
Yes, you will. BKH70041 Jul 2014 #34
I think it's time for Germany to leave early like they did in 1998 or 1978 jakeXT Jun 2014 #2
You forgot 1994 Ron Obvious Jun 2014 #7
He played in Germany for HSV at the time, it seems he has been sentenced to 2 years in prison jakeXT Jun 2014 #9
And now we know... the rest of the story. Ron Obvious Jun 2014 #12
I'd settle for this again Capt. Obvious Jun 2014 #4
My predictions Ron Obvious Jun 2014 #6
You got 9 of 16. BKH70041 Jun 2014 #23
Wow! You got 5 of 8. Very Good! BKH70041 Jul 2014 #29
Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future. Bosonic Jun 2014 #8
And England wins in a penalty shoot-out ? /nt jakeXT Jun 2014 #10
It's already improbable enough, thankyou. Bosonic Jun 2014 #11
I LIKE your predictions!!! darkangel218 Jun 2014 #18
You got 10 of 16. BKH70041 Jun 2014 #24
Some small consolation after England's performance. Bosonic Jun 2014 #26
You got 3 of 8 BKH70041 Jul 2014 #27
Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #13
I like it! Aquavit Jun 2014 #14
Mystic T_i_B predicts Argentina to win.... T_i_B Jun 2014 #15
Thanks all who have participated. BKH70041 Jun 2014 #16
My prediction: I will have some beer shenmue Jun 2014 #17
I'd for once like to see a North American team make it to final 8. mackerel Jun 2014 #19
I got 10 of 16 correct. BKH70041 Jun 2014 #22
Anything better than chance is brilliant in this sport Ron Obvious Jun 2014 #25
I got 3 of 8. BKH70041 Jul 2014 #28
I have mixed emotions about Colombia, born there and all but mackerel Jul 2014 #30
Well, I've got to hand it to you... Ron Obvious Jul 2014 #31
Thanks! BKH70041 Jul 2014 #32
I'm all for repeats.... Aquavit Jul 2014 #35
Congratulations to Germany!! BKH70041 Jul 2014 #36
The best team won in the end Ron Obvious Jul 2014 #37
You are a true fan. BKH70041 Jul 2014 #38
Angela Merkel Supports Her Team Matilda Jul 2014 #39
. jakeXT Jul 2014 #40
 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
1. Key-rist...an Argie v Kraut finale?? I'd have to root for the ref....
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 11:45 AM
Jun 2014

Last edited Mon Jun 9, 2014, 02:47 PM - Edit history (1)



My only predictions are that the US and England don't make it out of the first round...after that it'll be between some South American squad with both tons of flair and excellent foot skills, and a European Diving Squad....
 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
5. No way Uruguay wins that group...
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:35 AM
Jun 2014

...no way in hell...Italy will destroy Costa Rica and England, and they will probably beat Uruguay, unless that game is meaningless..

There are some other really dodgy predictions in there as well...

Methinks Nate should stick to predicting US politics..

Aquavit

(488 posts)
20. Any idea who the ref will be for the final?
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 12:14 AM
Jun 2014

I hope Howard Webb isn't calling the final again this time.

Brazil/Germany is my prediction for the final. The way things are shaping up, I think the last four will be Netherlands, Germany, Brazil, and France (mind you I've not actually looked at the schedule to see if this scenario is even a possibility).

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
2. I think it's time for Germany to leave early like they did in 1998 or 1978
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 06:22 AM
Jun 2014
Croatia stuns Germany 3-0, using one-man advantage.

LYON, France (Saturday, July 4, 1998) -- In perhaps the greatest World Cup upset in nearly 50 years, first-timer Croatia shocked three-time world champion Germany 3-0 tonight to advance to the semifinals of France ’98.

http://www.soccertimes.com/worldcup/1998/games/jul04a.htm


 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
7. You forgot 1994
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 10:36 AM
Jun 2014

When they went out to Bulgaria (Lechkov header) who had never won a WC game prior to that tournament.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
9. He played in Germany for HSV at the time, it seems he has been sentenced to 2 years in prison
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 01:23 PM
Jun 2014





The past decade has seen Yordan Letchkov turn his life to local politics, with the ex-footballer repeatedly winning the race to be the mayor of his local town Sliven. That post however has become Letchkov’s downfall, after a court found him guilty of tax irregularities connected to a dodgy municipal water and sewerage deal which lost to city a shedload of funds.

Letchkov is expected to appeal his prison sentence, and we wait to see if the Bulgarian legend will manage to avoid going behind bars.

http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/bulgarian-legend-yordan-letchkov-is-sent-to-prison-for-abuse-of-power-as-slivens-mayor/
 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
12. And now we know... the rest of the story.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 06:32 PM
Jun 2014

Thanks for that. I didn't know what had happened to him. I do fondly remember him and that Bulgarian squad, though. Many of them looked about 50 years old or so , including Letchkov, but he was only like 26. I remember being stunned at finding that out.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
6. My predictions
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 10:33 AM
Jun 2014

Group A
1. Brazil (obviously)
2. Croatia

This is a fairly poor Mexico side that only qualified by the skin of their teeth. Apparently they'll have more fans there than any team except for Brazil. I don't think it's enough.

Group B
1. Chile
2. Spain

The Spanish players are really tired and this is an exceptionally poor Holland squad with poor defence. Chile gets the South American advantage.

Group C
1. Colombia
2. Ivory Coast

Last chance for Ivory Coast's golden generation. Fortunately for them they're in a weak group. Greece can't score. Japan are a potential dark horse, though. They just might make it out of this group after all.

Group D
1. England
2. Uruguay

Suarez might be out, but Uruguay still gets near home advantage even if they're not as good as 4 years ago. Italy are slow starters typically, and it may cost them this time. Costa Rica are no-hopers here.

Group E.
1. France
2. Switzerland

Honduras are not very good and Ecuador are only good at altitude

Group F.
1. Argentina
2. Bosnia

Argentina are potential WC winners and Bosnia are the hipsters' choice but we shouldn't hold that against them. Not impressed with this Nigeria side, though they have a lot of recognisable names in the team.

Group G.
1. Germany
2. Portugal

Sorry USA, Germany are another title contender and I fear Portugal are also too much. In fact, I'd rate Ghana slightly higher than this US side which has regressed a bit. Dempsey moving to MLS was a bad move.

Group H.
1. Belgium
2. Russia

Everyone expects great things from Belgium but I'm far from convinced. Russia are a decent side but only have all their players playing at home which is not helpful in international tournaments. Algeria and South Korea are not good enough.

Round of 16
Brazil def. Spain
Chile def. Croatia
Colombia def. Uruguay
England over Ivory Coast
France defeats Bosnia
Argentina knocks out Switzerland
Germany beats Russia
Portugal beats Belgium

I'm think Argentina, Germany and Brazil are the obvious favourites. England out in the quarter final on penalties again. Holland, Spain and Italy will be the disappointments. Japan are outsiders for a quarter final spot.

Looking forward to Thursday night. I hope to get my TV fixed by then so I don't have to watch it on a crappy laptop screen.

BKH70041

(961 posts)
29. Wow! You got 5 of 8. Very Good!
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 07:34 PM
Jul 2014

Best I can tell you picked Argentina, Germany, Brazil, and England as your final four, and you didn't really name a set of final cup teams or the winner.

Bosonic

(3,746 posts)
8. Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 12:19 PM
Jun 2014
Group Winners

Group A : Brazil - Mexico
Group B : Netherlands - Spain
Group C : Columbia - Greece
Group D : England - Italy
Group E : France - Ecuador
Group F : Argentina - Nigeria
Group G : Germany - USA
Group H : Russia - S.Korea

Last 16

Brazil VS Spain ===> Brazil
Columbia VS Italy ===> Italy
France VS Nigeria ===> Nigeria
Germany VS S.Korea ===> Germany
Netherlands VS Mexico ===> Mexico
England VS Greece ===> England
Argentina VS Ecuador ===> Argentina
Russia VS USA ===> USA

Quartefinals

Brazil VS Italy ===> Brazil
Nigeria VS Germany ===> Germany
Mexico VS England ===> England
Argentina VS USA ===> Argentina

Semifinals

Brazil VS Germany ===> Germany
Argentina VS England ===> England

Final

Germany VS England ===> England

(3rd place : Brazil VS Argentina ===> Brazil)


Bosonic

(3,746 posts)
26. Some small consolation after England's performance.
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 10:03 AM
Jun 2014

Oh well, Germany's now my new tip for the champions, although I think Algeria will grind them into extra time, possibly penalties in their upcoming fixture, before succumbing.

Response to BKH70041 (Original post)

Aquavit

(488 posts)
14. I like it!
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 12:37 PM
Jun 2014

I think France will get into the last four, but otherwise I'd not be surprised if you've nailed it.

Especially like how your final turns out

T_i_B

(14,800 posts)
15. Mystic T_i_B predicts Argentina to win....
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 02:06 AM
Jun 2014

...Messi to finally do the business in the knock out stages of a world cup.

And by sheer co-incidence, look who my favourite unfashionable northern rugby union club has as their special guest for the world cup final!

http://www.rotherhamrugby.co.uk/news/1376/watch-the-fifa-world-cup-final-with-ossie-ardiles-at-the-titans!/

mackerel

(4,412 posts)
19. I'd for once like to see a North American team make it to final 8.
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 10:09 PM
Jun 2014

Obviously Mexico is our best bet. Keeping my fingers crossed for Mexico!

BKH70041

(961 posts)
22. I got 10 of 16 correct.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 08:52 AM
Jun 2014

Though not necessarily in the correct order. Still that's pretty good.

The only really weak teams I see left are Algeria, Greece, and Nigeria. The others, while there are only maybe 5 teams who could go all the way, do provide some exciting football to watch. I look forward to the knockout games.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
25. Anything better than chance is brilliant in this sport
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 09:43 AM
Jun 2014

Mexico and Costa Rica completely surprised me. I didn't expect Spain to win the whole thing, but I sure didn't expect a complete collapse either. Belgium were even more of a letdown than I expected, despite their 3 wins in an easy group. Ah, England....

Biggest mystery of all: who the hell would hire Capello (the highest-paid manager no less) as national team manager with his 1 win in 7 record of dreary football?

I didn't expect that much from Colombia after the Falcao injury but they're looking great.

mackerel

(4,412 posts)
30. I have mixed emotions about Colombia, born there and all but
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 09:01 PM
Jul 2014

crazed fans have actually been known to kill the players when they lose a game. One guy shot a player in the airport as
they were arriving home. It's hard to identify with that kind of passion. I think Holland will fair well.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
31. Well, I've got to hand it to you...
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 06:48 PM
Jul 2014

You picked it! Germany - Argentina for the final.

I don't see how it's going to be 3-2 (a repeat of '86?) though, but as sure as hell hope it won't be repeat of the '90 final.

Germany 3-0 in regulation time. I both predict that and hope that's how it will turn out.

BKH70041

(961 posts)
32. Thanks!
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 09:18 PM
Jul 2014

Sometimes you just accept the luck that comes your way.

As for my final score guess, maybe we'll get lucky and the finalist will put on a show for us.

Aquavit

(488 posts)
35. I'm all for repeats....
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 11:41 AM
Jul 2014

In fact, I hope Germany repeat their performance against Brazil tomorrow!

Honestly I don't care what the final is, just so long as nobody beats Manuel Neuer and at least one person beats Sergio Romo!

BKH70041

(961 posts)
36. Congratulations to Germany!!
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 06:59 PM
Jul 2014

Great tournament!

And thanks to everyone in this forum who participated in the discussion and comments. This forum is where the true football fans are. The posters in GD who talked about the WC are a bunch of posers. They aren't the true fans.

League play starts in another month. Looking forward to discussing it here with the true fans.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
37. The best team won in the end
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 08:12 PM
Jul 2014

I think that by your standards I'm both a true football fan and a poser, so I'll have to think about how I'm going to resolve that contradiction.

Bring on the new season. Sanchez signed for Arsenal which makes me a happy Gooner.

BKH70041

(961 posts)
38. You are a true fan.
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 08:43 PM
Jul 2014

The posers are those in GD (and even in this forum) who showed up for only USA games and/or the final games.

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