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C Moon

(12,551 posts)
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 04:36 AM Jul 2022

Very disappointed with some people I thought were good. Regarding contract work. No pay.

(I posted about this a few days ago for some advice....now I'm just kind of depressed about it).

I was contacted by a coworker at a small audio company for which I worked for 11 years. I'm working freelance now, after that company we worked for was bought out, and layoffs ensued.

This guy was at a new company, and asked if I'd be interested in doing some graphics work.
I said sure. We went over price. I did some samples. They were happy. Signed a contract.

I worked hard for them: evenings, early mornings, weekends.
Got it done, plus some. They were happy with the work and thanked me.

Sent them the bill. Excuse after excuse: oh, we missed the payment deadline; oh, I didn't get your banking info (lie, sent it twice); oh, you replied to the wrong email (lie); it went on and on.

Now they aren't replying to my emails (it's been over 4 months since I did the work).

I sent them invoices this morning with "late fee" charges if not paid by xx/xx/xxxx. No reply yet.

I guess I'll have to go to court.

Fuck them. I did the work. Pay me. They must have gone to Trump University.

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Very disappointed with some people I thought were good. Regarding contract work. No pay. (Original Post) C Moon Jul 2022 OP
Wow, that's just wrong. Hope you get paid. If not, iluvtennis Jul 2022 #1
Where do you live? Some jurisdictions... Pacifist Patriot Jul 2022 #2
California. C Moon Jul 2022 #16
You have a contract! LittleGirl Jul 2022 #3
I had a small recording company for ten years. mwb970 Jul 2022 #4
Jesus? Well he clearly doesn't know how to handle money. He's always asking for more. 3Hotdogs Jul 2022 #9
Lol! I love it! Bluethroughu Jul 2022 #12
LOL! C Moon Jul 2022 #15
Get a lawyer liberal N proud Jul 2022 #5
Sad... but doubt you will get your money....they are broke and running on fumes ashredux Jul 2022 #6
That's what I'm thinking. It was a new project, they paid others who are important to them. C Moon Jul 2022 #14
Small Claims Court might work QED Jul 2022 #7
This actually happens fairly often lonely bird Jul 2022 #8
If it's within the amount for small claims, file now. Some courts have the paperwork on internet and 3Hotdogs Jul 2022 #10
Nice! Thanks. I'll look into that. C Moon Jul 2022 #17
Post the invoice on a Facebook page... Bluethroughu Jul 2022 #11
I always used a step contract. Do a little work, collect cbabe Jul 2022 #13
UPDATE: I finally got paid. C Moon Aug 2022 #18

Pacifist Patriot

(24,899 posts)
2. Where do you live? Some jurisdictions...
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 06:08 AM
Jul 2022

have laws pertaining to this. NYC has one commonly called the "freelance isn't free" law. Contractors are entitled to double their invoice if not paid in 30 days AND the company they did work for is subject to fines. The government takes the place of having to sue yourself.

I recommend looking into that aspect of you haven't already.

That is so so wrong!!!

mwb970

(11,699 posts)
4. I had a small recording company for ten years.
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 06:17 AM
Jul 2022

Of all of my many customers, the only one that refused to pay after I did a lot of work for them was also the only church group I recorded for. Apparently Christians are not required to pay for services rendered by others. I wish I had realized that in advance!

3Hotdogs

(13,387 posts)
9. Jesus? Well he clearly doesn't know how to handle money. He's always asking for more.
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 07:45 AM
Jul 2022

When I said my prayers last night, I told Jesus to call Dave Ramsey. and ask him how to set up a budget using Dave's, "Every Day Budget." I says, until I hear you on Dave's podcast, asking for help, you ain't getting one more dime from me.

liberal N proud

(60,942 posts)
5. Get a lawyer
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 06:52 AM
Jul 2022

They cannot do that. If you have a contract, you have every right to be paid. You can start adding interest to the bill. Keep sending a bill with late fees.

QED

(2,946 posts)
7. Small Claims Court might work
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 07:11 AM
Jul 2022

It depends on the amount of money. IIRC, it's much quicker than civil court.

lonely bird

(1,883 posts)
8. This actually happens fairly often
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 07:33 AM
Jul 2022

I am self-employed in the coatings and linings industry. I have also worked for several companies in the paint, coatings and linings industry. I have seen general contractors drag out paying sub-contractors, sub-contractors drag out paying suppliers. Unfortunately as the gig economy increases I think that this will happen more often as small companies/self-employed lack the “pockets” and end up living from job to job.

3Hotdogs

(13,387 posts)
10. If it's within the amount for small claims, file now. Some courts have the paperwork on internet and
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 07:53 AM
Jul 2022

downloadable.

You will win but collecting also involves effort. You pay $25.00 or so for the sheriff to serve. Then you send them a form for which they document their bank account and assets. This has the penalty of purjury if the omit stuff.

The sheriff goes after their bank account and other stuff. Sheriff might also be able to attach their equipment. You might end up owning a recording studio. (I sing tenor if you want to offer me a recording contract).


It is at this stage, where they are listing their assets, that they get scared and pay, if they have any money.

It took me almost 5 months to get $2,500 out of one deadbeat but I got it.

But file now, before other creditors get ahead of you.

Bluethroughu

(5,750 posts)
11. Post the invoice on a Facebook page...
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 08:39 AM
Jul 2022

Explain that you haven't been paid by this company for work done, post a picture of your work and tag the company. All their customers will see it, and if they do contact you, tell them you will take the post down when the check cashes.

cbabe

(4,147 posts)
13. I always used a step contract. Do a little work, collect
Sun Jul 31, 2022, 10:40 AM
Jul 2022

payment. Do the next step. Collect. Like that until done.

Also never turn over work until cash/check is in hand, literally.

Had to hassle some clients but if they stop paying, I stopped working. Keeps one from being stiffed big time.

Suggest also contacting better business bureau for advice.

C Moon

(12,551 posts)
18. UPDATE: I finally got paid.
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 07:34 PM
Aug 2022

After sending an email with the invoices updated with a deadline and late fees, they finally replied. And after missing another payment promise date (last Tuesday), they finally paid the next day (Wednesday).

Whew.

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