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Why is it .... (Original Post) Scuba Mar 2013 OP
Because the defenders of the second amendment are radical liberal N proud Mar 2013 #1
Interesting graphic. Not sure if that is the most effective contrast. freshwest Mar 2013 #2
I don't recall books or porn being banned in this country. SamReynolds Mar 2013 #3
You might find this a good read: ellisonz Mar 2013 #4
Lol.... well, I meant recently. SamReynolds Mar 2013 #5
Look at kiddie porn on your computer and go to jail. Warren Stupidity Mar 2013 #6
That's measurably harmful. SamReynolds Mar 2013 #7
guns are not measurably harmful? Warren Stupidity Mar 2013 #8
Not all of them. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2013 #9

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
2. Interesting graphic. Not sure if that is the most effective contrast.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 05:51 PM
Mar 2013

And what we in this country call First and Second Amendment Rights, aren't confined to the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.

Those issues are bigger and we need to think in broader terms. This group is going beyond any interpretation of the Second Amendment to the inalienable rights in the Declaration of Independence, with this sentence being one of the most celebrated in the world:

...We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness...

~ Thomas Jefferson

The father of one of the Newton victims cited that statement as taking precedence over the Amendments. He even said that the order of the words was of significant, putting his son's Life above Liberty. I think this is where this group's activism draws strength, but appreciate the graphic. Thanks for posting.


 

SamReynolds

(170 posts)
5. Lol.... well, I meant recently.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 05:17 AM
Mar 2013

But thanks for the link. Most of it is unsurprising, but I'm not sure if the comparison to the regulation of firearms is necessarily apt considering that more and more, we are learning that 'obscenity' is too arbitrary a label for the myriad of expression we are capable, while, thankfully, we are treating gun violence more and more seriously.

The two have two different destinies. Speech becomes freer, and gun access more difficult.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
6. Look at kiddie porn on your computer and go to jail.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 06:33 AM
Mar 2013

Oh that porn.

Yes we regulate and limit free speech.

Try publishing a book about how to make the secret bits of a nuclear device.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
9. Not all of them.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 07:55 PM
Mar 2013

In fact, the vast majority of firearms in this country will never harm a human being. Child pornography, on the other hand, is always harmful.

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