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DetlefK

(16,617 posts)
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 07:04 AM Feb 16

Captain America Brave New World is bad. Really, really bad. (Mild spoilers.)

The movie-makers think that you are dumb. That's the gist of it.



The writing is inexplicably bad.
The movie slathers you in clunky exposition that slows down the tempo and flow of a scene, and then forces the story onto you via unexplained plotholes. This is a detective-movie in which the protagonists do not DISCOVER information. Instead it drops into the plot out of nowhere ALL BY ITSELF whenever it is necessary to move the plot forwards.
For example: 5 assassins try to kill President Ross. All of them get arrested alive. Immediately the heroes run off to wild-goose-chases, not even thinking about interrogating these assassins for clues.

There are no stakes.
For example: Sam Wilson, a normal guy, gets stabbed multiple times, gets his bones broken, gets slammed into walls multiple times so hard that he should end up in hospital with a concussion, and he just walks it off. How am I supposed to feel suspense over the hero getting hurt when the movie shows the hero as being invincible for no reason?

Being mad at the people who hurt you is considered unreasonable.
The "villain" is a victim who wants to get back at their abuser. He doesn't want money or power or to kill people. He wants to destroy his abuser. And that makes him a bad person.
The same argument goes for Isaac Whatshisname. He was illegally imprisoned by the US Government for 30 years and they did medical experiments on him... and then his friends tell him to just be happy and to stop thinking about it.

The social pandering to minorities is LIP-SERVICE AND FAKE.
For example: Minorities being invited to a White House event is celebrated as some sort of historical turning-point, as if that's how social progress is measured.
For example: The most PATHETIC pandering to minorities is the strongest in one of the final scenes. We finally learn the background of the latino protagonist: He grew up in some quaint, irrelevant place in the middle of nowhere where nothing ever happened and he always dreamed of getting out of there and making it. That quaint little village is... Miami. Which makes our latino protagonist THE POLITICALLY ACCEPTABLE KIND OF LATINO: A Cuban-American. Because God forbid that a dirt-person with mexican or south-american heritage become a superhero.

Normal people do not exist.
In Black Panther 2, the Wakandans and Atlanteans wage war on each other in the streets of the US. Nobody cares.
The Wakandans ambush a CIA prison-transport in the middle of the US. Nobody cares.
In CABNW, the Celestial island appears out of nowhere. Nobody cares.
WWIII almost breaks out. Nobody cares.
The freshly-elected President not only turns out that he has done truly horrible things in his past which never came up during the election, he also turns out to not be a normal person but to secretly be a Hulk. And nobody cares.

Normal people are irrelevant, opinionless sheep who do as they are told.





Also, the trailers gave away the entire finale.

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Captain America Brave New World is bad. Really, really bad. (Mild spoilers.) (Original Post) DetlefK Feb 16 OP
It was reported that they began filming without a script..later they filmed more stuff to make it coherent Demovictory9 Feb 16 #1
Direct sequel to a poorly written Disney Plus show exboyfil Feb 16 #2
When is Hollywood going to give up bif Feb 16 #3
But don't we need a hero now?? Who should it be?? a kennedy Feb 16 #4
The existence of heroes is a sign of a failed society. DetlefK Feb 16 #5

Demovictory9

(35,023 posts)
1. It was reported that they began filming without a script..later they filmed more stuff to make it coherent
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 08:09 AM
Feb 16

It's clear in scenes that the two filmed aren't really together. And The sidewinder scenes were added later.

exboyfil

(18,172 posts)
2. Direct sequel to a poorly written Disney Plus show
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 08:49 AM
Feb 16

And the underperforming 2nd MCU movie. Hired a director whose claim to fame is the awful The Clover field Paradox. Started out with an agenda driven script that was later extensively modified. Scrapbook filming of scenes (some without scripts). Late introduction of a major villain. The amazing thing is that it isn't doing that poorly and seems to have a fair amount of good buzz. Still making back the real production costs seems out of reach.

bif

(25,021 posts)
3. When is Hollywood going to give up
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 09:49 AM
Feb 16

with the countless variations of the superhero movies? I have absolutely no interesting in seeing any of them. What a waste of time and money.

a kennedy

(33,164 posts)
4. But don't we need a hero now?? Who should it be??
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 12:38 PM
Feb 16

What type of hero should it be?? We definitely need a hero now.

DetlefK

(16,617 posts)
5. The existence of heroes is a sign of a failed society.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 01:34 PM
Feb 16

A functioning society regulates itself. The people make life good for the people.

A failed society is incapable of reigning in its destructive elements and needs outside intervention.



Think about it:
If Gotham had a functioning police-department, would they need Batman?
If the US as a society valued empathy and truth, would they need a hero to save them from Trump?

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