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SleeplessinSoCal

(10,023 posts)
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 01:47 AM Feb 9

What should happen this coming Independence Day?

No way am I celebrating. I don't think I can watch my favorite movie for the anniversary "1776".

I think it could be complete mayhem. Any ideas?

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What should happen this coming Independence Day? (Original Post) SleeplessinSoCal Feb 9 OP
I love 1776 the movie. I'll probably still watch it but won't do any celebrating... wcmagumba Feb 9 #1
Ditto, and will hope something will have given us reason to celebrate. elleng Feb 9 #2
Oh I dunno... TommyT139 Feb 9 #3
Good! elleng Feb 9 #4
Okay, maybe a little celebrating, like a small sparkly fountain in my complex parking lot... wcmagumba Feb 9 #5
The psychics are saying that he'll be toast before the Ides of March. usonian Feb 9 #6
Please please please...you psychos/psychics/physics rock.....! wcmagumba Feb 9 #11
I think it's a great Topic to discuss proud patriot Feb 9 #7
I agree that something needs to be done. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 9 #9
My prediction is sadly unfolding.... Bread and Circuses Feb 9 #8
Rendition Trump and Musk? 3825-87867 Feb 9 #10
I will remember the words of Thomas Jefferson, the author of the Declaration of Undependence. In Congress, July 4, 1776. DFW Feb 11 #12
Why not celebrate? Sure, America has done bad shit. Every country in the world has. Hellbound Hellhound Feb 11 #13
I couldn't disagree more. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 11 #15
We had the same with JFK. We had the same with Johnson. We had the same with Wilson and FDR. Hellbound Hellhound Feb 11 #16
Jefferson's language in the Declaration of Independence from monarchy was inspiring. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 11 #17
We should wear Constitution shirts and hand out pocket constitutions proud patriot Feb 14 #19
We usually drive the county Democratic party float in our Bettie Feb 11 #14
Releasing January 6 violent convicts was meant to be intimidation. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 11 #18
A spending boycott. Hotler Feb 15 #20
Funeral service for the Constitution nt Wicked Blue Feb 15 #21
That's a solid reaction. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 15 #22
Do Nothing Day IzzaNuDay Feb 15 #23
I just recall his desire to bring in the military. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 15 #24

TommyT139

(1,140 posts)
3. Oh I dunno...
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 02:00 AM
Feb 9

I think a day to overthrow kings and aristocrats is a natural fit. Why let them define it? Why obey in advance?

usonian

(16,933 posts)
6. The psychics are saying that he'll be toast before the Ides of March.
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 02:12 AM
Feb 9

I've been disappointed before, but I'm keeping my flag on the shelf for some flying at full staff soon.

proud patriot

(101,787 posts)
7. I think it's a great Topic to discuss
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 02:22 AM
Feb 9

We should do something like honor our Veterans in some way .
Speaking about their sacrifice for our Constitution .

it should be something that takes back patriotism from the Fascists
something we can wear maybe .

I'm just throwing out ideas

I'm bookmarking this thread

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,023 posts)
9. I agree that something needs to be done.
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 03:44 AM
Feb 9

Somehow upstage the over the top spectacle they're going to force on us. Probably huge marches and lots of literature about the declaration of Independence and Constitution.

TRUMP AS FAT GEORGE III





Bread and Circuses

(678 posts)
8. My prediction is sadly unfolding....
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 02:46 AM
Feb 9

I had predicted that the likelihood that the republic will be lost by summer.

Dismantling the institutions of the government and spreading vile lies about federal workers coupled with untrue claims that there is rampart corruption and waste in the government agencies will provide them with ammunition to drown the federal government in the bathtub.


The lawsuits are important, but Present Musk will ignore them because there is no enforcement of court orders. I’ve posted my analysis in another post .

The ✔️ check against the Executive is the Legislative branch.

Moses Mike is too busy monitoring his own and his son’s porn consumption. Truly, I wish that I didn’t know that. 🤬

DFW

(57,678 posts)
12. I will remember the words of Thomas Jefferson, the author of the Declaration of Undependence. In Congress, July 4, 1776.
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 10:58 AM
Feb 11

Specifically this excerpt from the Declaration:

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

The actions of Trump and Musk do, in my eyes, evince a design to reduce us under absolute despotism. According to Jefferson, it is our right and our duty to throw off such Government. How we exercise that right, how we carry out that duty, that is up to our representatives in Congress and the courts (WE HOPE!!!!). If they fail, it is left to the common folk to say, "enough." In 2006, the first time I heard then-Senator Barack Obama speak in a small setting, he said, referring to Cheney/Bush, "I don't know about you, but I've had enough." So, what about this time? Has he had enough yet? Have we?

13. Why not celebrate? Sure, America has done bad shit. Every country in the world has.
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 12:54 PM
Feb 11

Sure, we've got the Felon in charge, but America at large is still the country we were born in. A country of rebels and a country of dissidents. The very fact that we're typing here, relatively freely, and voicing our opinions and choices is a testament to America itself. Even using DU is flying the flag of America's founding principles.

A shithead of a president is not a reason to avoid celebrating our history and heritage.

So, don't put up a Trump flag. Don't wear a MAGA hat. But enjoy the history of the moment and the history of our ancestors, and celebrate and revere all the best America has to offer. Myself, I'm celebrating my Hungarian-Australian wife. I'm celebrating my birthright. I'm celebrating the Constitution and most important, I'm honoring and respecting every man, woman and child that fell getting us here.

They deserve that one day. The other 364, we can panic, stress and freak out about whatever.

But you, and America, deserve that one day.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,023 posts)
15. I couldn't disagree more.
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 02:50 PM
Feb 11

We have a nation divided and a corrupt government which claims it's ending corruption. They will go over the top with fireworks and flag waving, putting on a display of celebration for the end of democracy and Democrats.

We need a new Jefferson to put into words a new declaration. Maybe Obama. And we need to make the rule of law it's centerpiece.

Take America back!!!

16. We had the same with JFK. We had the same with Johnson. We had the same with Wilson and FDR.
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 02:52 PM
Feb 11

Nothing here is new under the sun. And Jefferson was a flaming slave-owning and slave-raping racist. Sure, let's go back to THAT.

Fantastic standards there.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,023 posts)
17. Jefferson's language in the Declaration of Independence from monarchy was inspiring.
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 06:08 PM
Feb 11

None of what you say is true. We are experiencing lawlessness coupled with intimidating anyone who dares speak the truth or not vote for completely unqualified nominees like RFK, Patel, Hegseth and Vought. He's firing every safeguard put in place by acts of Congress with no push back from Congress.

And the SCOTUS has for the first time in our history given over the right to break laws to the president and his band of neo Christo-fascists.

"A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism"

proud patriot

(101,787 posts)
19. We should wear Constitution shirts and hand out pocket constitutions
Fri Feb 14, 2025, 01:20 AM
Feb 14

I'm going to look up about getting some Constitutions to hand out .

somehow your post inspired me to do that .

Bettie

(18,115 posts)
14. We usually drive the county Democratic party float in our
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 01:59 PM
Feb 11

town's parade.

Not sure if it is even worth the time or effort this year.

We usually drive it to every small town parade in the county.

Again, not sure it's worth it or even safe anymore.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,023 posts)
18. Releasing January 6 violent convicts was meant to be intimidation.
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 06:14 PM
Feb 11

I don't understand why we aren't making efforts to reach people about how dangerous this is for those who obey the law. It teaches that following the law is a sucker's choice.

We were a nation of laws. Not now.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,023 posts)
22. That's a solid reaction.
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 04:39 PM
Feb 15

Maybe a "Death Watch" or "Vigil".

"Deathwatch refers to a vigil kept over someone who is dying, as well as a guard set over a condemned person before execution. It can also refer to a type of beetle known for making a ticking sound, which was historically thought to signify death."

IzzaNuDay

(924 posts)
23. Do Nothing Day
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 08:30 PM
Feb 15

Definitely doing nothing for the 249th. My city has issues with diversity efforts so I'm gonna stay home and drink some iced tea, read books.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,023 posts)
24. I just recall his desire to bring in the military.
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 11:52 PM
Feb 15

Makes me angry that he basically abuses the day.

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