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lees1975

(6,372 posts)
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 07:48 PM Mar 24

The leader of the stop Trump movement is clearly Bernie Sanders.

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2025/03/how-much-time-do-we-have.html

The hero of the moment, for the Stop Trump movement, is the 83 year old independent Senator from Vermont, Bernie Sanders. Senator Sanders ran for the Democratic party nomination for President twice, and his message hasn't changed. A year after Trump was elected the first time, he was addressing the opioid crisis in front of packed houses in deep red counties. He's a truthful populist, and his resilience and the fact that the people of his state have repeatedly placed their trust in him is affirmation of his belief in the American people and his desire, as a politician, to benefit them, not himself.

I'm going to say something that will make a lot of people angry, but it needs to be said. If Bernie Sanders had been the Democratic nominee in 2020, and had been in the White House, Donald Trump would now be in prison for the crimes he committed during his first term, especially for inciting an insurrection against the United States.

That's why he's the one who, along with Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez, are drawing the kind of crowds and interest that are surpassing the size of campaign rallies, and is building the kind of popular support, and pressure, that it will take to stop Trump. That is a big job, given the failure of the GOP to stand up for itself, and their spineless support, which is based on what they are getting out of it. Democrats in Congress, especially in the Senate, are stuck in their old way of thinking, and a few of them have sold themselves out. So there's no credibility for a resistance there. Sanders isn't a Democrat, and AOC is on the House side, where there appears to be a bit more in the way of unity.

I'm almost convinced that if Bernie had been the nominee in 2016, Trump would never have been elected. He brings working class support and credibility in his message that, united with moderate to liberal Democrats, would have swamped Trump and maybe even picked up a couple of red states, in addition to solidifying the blue wall.
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The leader of the stop Trump movement is clearly Bernie Sanders. (Original Post) lees1975 Mar 24 OP
He always has been. SSJVegeta Mar 24 #1
Yet Sanders is still bashed regularly. PufPuf23 Mar 25 #2
im still mad at him for allowing his bros to call hillary a whore and tossed samnsara Mar 25 #3
O.K. lees1975 Mar 25 #4
Thom Hartman seems plenty articulated. Gum Logger Friday #5

SSJVegeta

(241 posts)
1. He always has been.
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 08:15 PM
Mar 24

Problem is, the effort to prevent and get rid of the core elements that enabled trump in the first place has had lackluster support from the Dem establishment until... well it still does.

PufPuf23

(9,350 posts)
2. Yet Sanders is still bashed regularly.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 01:01 AM
Mar 25

Hope there is a recognizable USA left when AOC is experienced enough to be POTUS. Hope AOC runs and wins a spot as US Senator New York at next opportunity.

Sad that this forum has so little activity.

samnsara

(18,454 posts)
3. im still mad at him for allowing his bros to call hillary a whore and tossed
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 09:27 AM
Mar 25

dollar bills at her as she arrived at a fundraiser.
i dont consider him a leader..

lees1975

(6,372 posts)
4. O.K.
Tue Mar 25, 2025, 05:29 PM
Mar 25

Not that Hillary and her supporters behaved perfectly toward Senator Sanders, or did anything equally rude.

But, hey, I think the original post points out that when a particular movement is on the rise, and this one is a necessarily quick rise, sometimes you lose a few voters and supporters.

Neither Hillary Clinton nor Joe Biden, both Democrats for which I have a lot of admiration and respect, were able to stop what has been labelled as the biggest threat to American Democracy since the Civil War. And we don't honestly know whether Bernie can do it, either. But he seems to have the message and is getting the attention no one else in the resistance is getting.

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