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MaineBlueBear

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52. So do nothing?

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Fri Nov 15, 2024, 06:58 AM

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No discussion of how we lost will be complete without addressing the role of dis & misinformation.

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WHY did we lose? [View all] BootinUp Thursday OP

The media sakabatou Thursday #1

This! FalloutShelter Thursday #7

Trump's win is still paying off for the media, his cabinet choices make good news content. dem4decades Friday #51

I will NEVER forgive the media. BigDemVoter Yesterday #118

I'd say the viral spread of misinformation. n/t femmedem Thursday #2

A huge factor but not directly in our control. nt BootinUp Thursday #3

So do nothing? MaineBlueBear Friday #52

In todays media environment BootinUp Friday #69

You didn't ask what could have been done differently. Susan Calvin Friday #106

Simple: Lost touch with the voters Sympthsical Thursday #4

Sounds simple. BootinUp Thursday #6

I'm thinking of writing a short essay about it Sympthsical Thursday #20

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I need to consider them longer. nt BootinUp Thursday #31

I don't really disagree that we've lost touch with voters mountain grammy Thursday #33

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I was sick listening to this speech mountain grammy Friday #64

It's about preserving the white anglo male, anti women and anti minorities power structure GoreWon2000 Friday #76

Normalization by the MSM, endless unchallenged lies by RW media, the swamp of social media tools NewHendoLib Thursday #5

Yes, but NO answer to that problem is not acceptable. nt BootinUp Thursday #8

As it stands, we have no answer to this problem. It has taken decades and huge money NewHendoLib Thursday #9

If you think about it though, we have beaten these issues before. It was worse this time because: Pandemic. BootinUp Thursday #10

Harris should have run her own race 4th gen blue Thursday #11

RIIIIIIIIIIIGHT Skittles Thursday #13

Hardly relayerbob Friday #105

MISINFORMATION Skittles Thursday #12

I did not see trans folk as a top exit poll answer. BootinUp Thursday #16

I HEAR IT CONSTANTLY FROM THE REPUKES AROUND ME Skittles Thursday #18

They weren't going to vote for Harris anyway Shrek Friday #55

PLENTY Skittles Friday #108

Bad voters, ignorant voters. Women hating going on. Trump evil. Trueblue1968 Thursday #14

The Dumbshit vote. The Repub dumbshits who were dazzled by "They're eating the cats".... albacore Thursday #26

Biden got 81 million votes in 2020 while Harris got 73 million votes in 2024 Kennah Thursday #15

I guess you don't like this thread. BootinUp Thursday #19

That number just blows my mind. How?? JanMichael Thursday #32

Biden stepping out so late DeepWinter Friday #56

THIS. Dulcinea Friday #91

We lost because the president had a 39% approval rating in exit polls. DemocratSinceBirth Thursday #17

I know. I trace it back to the economic pain from the pandemic mostly. nt BootinUp Thursday #21

That's it (fairly or not). Presidential candidates of the same party as the incumbent President, surfered Thursday #27

Trump's awfulness is what made it close. DemocratSinceBirth Thursday #29

+1 Shermann Friday #54

Trump was at 34% toward the end of his first term Zambero Friday #82

I've been trying to figure it out Tribetime Thursday #22

I like the fact that you are considering all angles. peace. nt BootinUp Thursday #24

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Pizza...Pizza here!! GP6971 Thursday #40

The Unicorn POOP was in Overload. Cha Thursday #44

Don't you ever tire of pizza?? GP6971 Thursday #41

Too Much Unicorn POOP. Cha Thursday #43

It's really a shame that they don't GP6971 Thursday #45

lol.. I saw that. Sounds Cha Friday #48

Plus not enough time to campaign Polybius Friday #73

We didn't get as many votes as the other guys. Iggo Thursday #23

I guess you don't like this thread, either. nt BootinUp Thursday #25

The underlying reason is quite simple. Aussie105 Thursday #28

You think he has 51% of the US population voting for a strong man? Nah. Maybe BootinUp Thursday #30

More like 22% of the US population. nt Shermann Friday #59

I think it is obvious there is no one reason, imo anyway Meowmee Thursday #34

The vote counts was hacked Farmer-Rick Thursday #35

Putin and Musk Wicked Blue Thursday #36

When one company is beaten by a rival company, should they say it is the fault of the customers? Should they say Doodley Thursday #37

Media, Bettie Thursday #39

Because we failed to convince the majority of American voters we'd do a better job at what was important to them WarGamer Thursday #42

Of course, but there has to be more to the story. nt BootinUp Friday #47

What was important to them ? kacekwl Friday #66

We Didn't DET Friday #46

51% of voting Americans get their information from propaganda and overt lying sources, including bots and trolls seeking hlthe2b Friday #49

Right wing propaganda, misogyny, and the economy. Elessar Zappa Friday #50

Social media too. Initech Friday #72

I consider that under the "right wing propaganda" umbrella. Elessar Zappa Friday #75

Well, if you watch Fox, they're back to acting like DC is their personal property again. Initech Friday #79

1996 IRAIIRA Hippasus Friday #53

I really do not think we did. LiberalArkie Friday #57

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Religion. Mariana Friday #61

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What does that have to do with my reply? Mariana Friday #63

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Yes, 58% of Catholics voted for Trump. Mariana Friday #93

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Your information is irrelevant to the topic of this thread. Mariana Friday #95

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The topic of this thread is "WHY did we lose?" Mariana Friday #97

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One big reason TFG came into power Mariana Friday #101

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I don't believe you. Sounds like paranoid persecution complex bullshit thebigidea Friday #113

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Agree - I think this is the sleeper reason that we haven't focused on TBF Sunday #114

The thing is, it's not a sleeper reason. Mariana Sunday #115

It's amazing to me how few will say the answer BootinUp Friday #65

Citizens United crazylikafox Friday #67

We're not ready to elect a woman Arazi Friday #68

Shudda, coulda, woulda... My guess is that Biden should have not run but supported Harris giving her more time for CTyankee Friday #70

One of the factors we're overlooking: Isreal / Palestine Initech Friday #71

Yes, but a smaller factor than the economy, BootinUp Friday #74

Two things TheFarseer Friday #77

Lies from the Republican Propaganda Machine Emile Friday #78

A different view LogDog75 Friday #80

Inflation was halted, but prices really never came down much.. Omnipresent Friday #81

And that is why I say pandemic. Just fyi BootinUp Friday #83

Inflation was a result of the pandemic so... Omnipresent Friday #84

Sexism and Racism TrunKated Friday #85

This poll needs more options Babajida Friday #86

Trump had a four year long, 24-7 media promotion. lees1975 Friday #87

We lost bc of White voters. Yavin4 Friday #88

I'm not gonna vote in this poll, but I saw a LOT of pushback regarding Harris' "selection". Hellbound Hellhound Friday #89

Check your phone's spam folder. DiamondShark Friday #90

That poll is a drastic oversimplification iemanja Friday #98

The Right-wing media/billionaires/anti-women/lots and lots of lies. chouchou Friday #100

Poor options. brush Friday #102

Because we played the I_UndergroundPanther Friday #103

4 - Too many ignorant assholes voting relayerbob Friday #104

I passed, but it's not President Biden BunkieBandit Friday #107

Too many fucking polls being paid outlandish attention. marble falls Friday #109

Really??? BootinUp Yesterday #117

Really. marble falls Yesterday #119

There is a reason we don't see eye to eye, but I don't have a clue what it is. BootinUp Yesterday #120

Says the guy who who responded, "Really??". marble falls Yesterday #121

Yeah, but you don't get to tell me what to post. So I discarded that immediately, lol. BootinUp Yesterday #122

And visa versa. marble falls Yesterday #123

Lets do this again some time! BootinUp Yesterday #124

Let's not. marble falls Yesterday #125

Exactly, its your choice. Make it a good one. BootinUp Yesterday #126

Why do we continue to not talk about the number one reason the massive massive misinformation campaign by Trump Russia oldmanlynn Friday #112

Because voters in some states preferred trump over Harris. Enough of them to elect him. nt Autumn Sunday #116

The election was stolen and we let it happen. Irish_Dem 23 hrs ago #127

The pandemic.Voters either lost their damn minds or retreated into a daily life bubble. haele 23 hrs ago #128