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usonian

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65. AI has run out of training data, including the entire corpus of planet earth.
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 10:03 PM
Nov 2024

It is having diminishing returns despite even more billions sunk into GPU's.

AI (transformers) cannot deal with changes
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219719722

And is designed to predict text. One paper had it failing miserably on math problems. It does not reason. It only predicts.

Still, there is no more data. Everything has been scanned and scraped already. As the Internet fills up with terabytes of AI-generated data (viz twitler, Meta, etc. ) it will be feeding largely on its own output.

I would add more, but I'd have to scour the computer and post lots of links.

Reaction on Hacker News, largely tech heads and VC's is pretty negative, not what you'd expect.

Just a couple.
AI isn’t about unleashing our imaginations, it’s about outsourcing them. The real purpose is profit
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42159136
HN page has link to Guardian article and much discussion.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/nov/16/ai-isnt-about-unleashing-our-imaginations-its-about-outsourcing-them-the-real-purpose-is-profit

I am tired of AI
https://www.ontestautomation.com/i-am-tired-of-ai/

HN discussion
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41667652

Hacker News discussions sometimes go way off topic, like flaming back and forth about bitcoin, so skim if you read posts there.

Those billions upon billions spent, and valuations in the stratosphere based on "trees growing to the sky" may crash when faced with reality.

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They need far more than merely "just as much" TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #1
My fear is they allow sub-standard insurers HereForTheParty Nov 2024 #2
like they did with Medicare "Advantage" Skittles Nov 2024 #63
Even worse HereForTheParty Nov 2024 #67
yes MA has to toe the line - for now Skittles Nov 2024 #69
Medicaid and Obamacare are not earned benefits Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #3
Either way Bettie Nov 2024 #7
Indeed. The cruelty is the point of it all. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #8
What's going to be "funny" Bettie Nov 2024 #9
Well, I suppose widespread suffering is one way to unify the country. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #16
Yes, but "earned" puts them into the category of Igel Nov 2024 #18
I'm not a lawyer, but I disagree. People and their employers pay into spooky3 Nov 2024 #52
My bad. You're right. But the'll still get the hatchet. Cyrano Nov 2024 #10
Canceling Medicaid can still collapse care facilities.... Hope22 Nov 2024 #42
Republicans do not care if the system collapses BigMin28 Nov 2024 #55
Eventually the chicken comes home to roost! Nt Hope22 Nov 2024 #59
They will be privatized gab13by13 Nov 2024 #4
Yes gutting Medicare will do the most damage. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #11
When the Republicans tank markodochartaigh Nov 2024 #24
Yes I agree. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #27
There should be different levels of income tax based on type of income LiberalFighter Nov 2024 #49
The tax code will be written to favor the rich. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #58
It always has BigMin28 Nov 2024 #60
Very good summation. The VCs have been waiting for a repeat of 2008 erronis Nov 2024 #33
That will result The Madcap Nov 2024 #56
I hear you on the medical care aspect. KentuckyWoman Nov 2024 #20
I think vapor2 Nov 2024 #5
If they are rigging the elections with Russian help, they don't care what voters think. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #29
And we heard that directly from the horses mouth, did we not? KPN Nov 2024 #40
Sometimes it is not paranoia, it is realanoia. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #47
Republicans will not outright eliminate SS or Medicare. yardwork Nov 2024 #6
Yes the plan is to turn over SS and Medicare to the billionaires who will suck out all the money Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #12
Yep, this is TrumpWorld Cyrano Nov 2024 #14
Yep. Like turkeys voting for Thanksgiving. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #17
The "non-profit" hospitals are already doing a piss-poor job of treating the uninsured. erronis Nov 2024 #38
Removing taxes on ss just gives an excuse to remove colas. The Madcap Nov 2024 #57
I hope these smart asses who are so happy now realize they will be supporting their parents and grandparents in the futu Walleye Nov 2024 #13
People who voted for Trump don't care about anyone but themselves. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #31
I don't know, even the hardest case won't let their grandmother starve to death, I hope Walleye Nov 2024 #34
Tariffs will crash the market and cause hyper-inflation. usonian Nov 2024 #15
Whoa-what about AI? TheFarseer Nov 2024 #64
AI has run out of training data, including the entire corpus of planet earth. usonian Nov 2024 #65
Trump doesn't keep any promises. KentuckyWoman Nov 2024 #19
It's not just Trump Cyrano Nov 2024 #21
The Heritage Foundation's-Nazi Manifesto-Project 2025 will do to American Democracy,... magicarpet Nov 2024 #53
Even Trump may be inclined to keep his promises to Putin. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #32
Aside from the right's fake made-for-tv Sutherlandesque body-snatcher's reaction to The Other... Hugin Nov 2024 #22
The number of people who will break thru the social safety net Marthe48 Nov 2024 #23
We may get that wish. :( Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #39
My in-laws live on Social Security and Medicare... ECL213 Nov 2024 #25
The handouts are to not grow food or oil companies to give back as bribes. GreenWave Nov 2024 #26
Ohh, if project 2025 is enacted it's going Farmer-Rick Nov 2024 #28
Two nights ago I had a dream about my grandparents who lost everything in the Great Depression. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #41
Some times your brain Farmer-Rick Nov 2024 #50
Don't forget Military Tricare for retired military cpamomfromtexas Nov 2024 #30
Tricare would be a very lucrative grift for Musk and his pals. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #43
One simple example of canceling Medicaid.... Hope22 Nov 2024 #35
I think the word you are looking for is "annihilation." Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #46
Exactly! Hope22 Nov 2024 #48
I'm pretty sure there was no literal shit on a fan Skittles Nov 2024 #61
Well there were a shitload of people Hope22 Nov 2024 #66
I'd like to see a reporter asking Rick Scott Arne Nov 2024 #36
Hear hear! Well stated. Sums everything up to a T ... and succinctly. KPN Nov 2024 #37
They will screw the poor first, as always Pinback Nov 2024 #44
More means testing and draconian cuts of 22% bucolic_frolic Nov 2024 #45
Republicans also make a lot of money off the 100+ million covered by these programs. So do Democrats, for that matter. Silent Type Nov 2024 #51
Non-MAGA Republicans in Congress need to form a coalition with Dems to challenge and fight the con's draconian cuts onetexan Nov 2024 #54
they're not gonna do a fucking thing except goose step to Donald Fucking Trump Skittles Nov 2024 #62
The data from those programs John Shaft Nov 2024 #68
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