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SomedayKindaLove

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84. I'll take George Bush

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Sun Nov 17, 2024, 10:25 PM

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Dressed like a cow boy and raking tumbleweed over Kerry wind sailing. Every time.

Both could be considered East Coast elitists. But Bush played it like he was Reagan’s long lost cowboy deputy roaming the Texas dry lands. The BS, like the tumbleweed, never stopped.

The fairytale now is that Trump is a working man’s, fry-slinging, garbage man billionaire, like some Ray Kroc and Wayne Huizenga love child. His elitist wealth is forgiven/forgotten/praised because he thinks and sounds like them. Looks like the tipping point on that in the country is going to be about 1.5%. Clearly that is not insurmountable, although Idiocracy has to start somewhere…

Nearly the entirety of the country shifted red. Could mostly be the effect of the economy, Biden’s approval ratings are about what Trump’s were when he lost in 2020. With the traditional Dem bases shifting right in 2024 elections, Dems are going to need to expand the base. They are going to have to get some Trump voters to switch. Which means they are going to have to appeal to Trump voters.

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Serious qestion: I feel like I'm being gaslit. Where does the perception of "Democratic elitism" come from? [View all] In It to Win It Saturday OP

if you support people I hate due to my religious beliefs you are elitist nt msongs Saturday #1

From Atlantic to Pacific Ocean, we won 4 states. jimfields33 Saturday #10

they know blue states subsidize red states Skittles Saturday #2

And now that 32 states are red. The blue states won't be jimfields33 Saturday #12

It was invisible. It was sold through churches and MAGA voting lists. bucolic_frolic Saturday #3

From the Republican elites that are running the propaganda firehose? OAITW r.2.0 Saturday #4

Completely agree. But why are left-leaning people who know better are also saying it? In It to Win It Saturday #9

Those that can't see, want to be blind. OAITW r.2.0 Saturday #19

Rooted in anti-intellectualism, imho. Duncan Grant Saturday #5

That's the best explanation I've seen/heard. Have also wondered about elitism when it's allegorical oracle Saturday #23

Or, to put it a little more crudely, soldierant Sunday #74

Interesting original meaning. electric_blue68 10 hrs ago #131

Because they play the dumb card and we call them on it. boston bean Saturday #6

Elitist used to mean someone (rich) who lived a life so far Tadpole Raisin Saturday #7

I completely agree. Republicans now reject science, medicine, education. tulipsandroses 18 hrs ago #118

Started with Woodrow Wilson. And honestly, before the southern strategy got the parties to flip, haele Saturday #8

If you know who the speaker of the house is and what this position does you're in the top 20% of governmental knowledge uponit7771 Saturday #11

People smarter than Republicans are. travelingthrulife Saturday #13

It is bullshit, spread by some of the MSM talking iidiots. The most elitist is the sociopath, and his hench men. JohnSJ Saturday #14

I would agree. What confuses me is people who are on our side also saying it... In It to Win It Saturday #15

Are they really on "our" side? That statement is lie. The Democratic Party is NOT shouting "down" to anybody. It is a JohnSJ Saturday #20

people "on our side" - TBF Saturday #27

David Axelrod, Chris Murphy, a few here on DU post that Democrats do this In It to Win It Saturday #35

That is 2 well known people and one low count poster - TBF Saturday #37

Ok, I think we're on the same page. Just making sure I wasn't crazy. In It to Win It Saturday #41

I think that idea has been there for many years Meowmee Saturday #16

Yeah, I've been saying that too about the so-called liberal elite schools In It to Win It Saturday #17

The ivy league schools are more like legacy media -- simply have been around a long time. They allegorical oracle Saturday #25

They've not only been around a long time, TBF Saturday #38

Coastal elites, limousine liberals, celebrity endorsements MaryMagdaline Saturday #18

Half the country has less than $400. For an emergency questionseverything Yesterday #109

They make good money and are highly skilled. MaryMagdaline 22 hrs ago #114

Elitism is the new term for... S/V Loner Saturday #21

DON'T OVERTHINK IT. JEWS! ANTI-SEMITISM. usonian Saturday #22

You're asking this question in the wrong space Sympthsical Saturday #24

So where is it you hang out when you're not here? Is that where you're recommending the OP go? Hekate Saturday #32

I read everywhere Sympthsical Saturday #39

It's A Line RobinA Sunday #68

I know two people who voted Trump and they give up when I try to talk politics with them. kerry-is-my-prez 11 hrs ago #130

If you were, like, supercool dpibel Sunday #86

As a 'coastal elite', Abolishinist Yesterday #90

Forget it, Jake. It's DUtown. Abolishinist Saturday #40

But I have talked with people who leaned toward Trump. Regular ass everyday folks In It to Win It Sunday #55

I'll give you one major example that I've heard a lot of Sympthsical 17 hrs ago #119

You ARE being gaslit. That's the point. The message comes from republicans who Scrivener7 Saturday #26

This. nt TBF Saturday #28

It comes from MAGAGOP. About the time I slogged my way thru a graduate degree, I realized... Hekate Saturday #29

"Elites" is yet another euphemism... appmanga Saturday #30

Sounds about right. "Critical thinking" is a baaaad thing. Hekate Saturday #34

Good point. Get rid of the word "elite," and concentrate on the divide between... LAS14 Sunday #45

I'd agree except undereducated people intheflow Sunday #46

Why isn't it taught in K-12 public schools? MichMan Sunday #54

Mostly Because we teach to standardized tests. intheflow Sunday #61

Are you referring exclusively to red states? MichMan Sunday #62

No, it's been national form for some time. intheflow Sunday #63

But then, and this cannot be denied, you have a not insignificant number of educators, administrators, and/or curricula Seeking Serenity Sunday #82

A big problem also, tho, intheflow 22 hrs ago #113

Aww, thank you. Seeking Serenity 19 hrs ago #116

I totally agree. Education at every level must be the best that it can be. LAS14 Sunday #69

Hmmmm... respectfully... electric_blue68 Yesterday #95

Never said they shouldn't be celebrated. intheflow 22 hrs ago #111

Biden has argued multiple times wryter2000 Sunday #85

Because with our current media, it's easier for them to call Ds elitist than Rs racist. W_HAMILTON Saturday #31

Think about the difference between GDP and income EdmondDantes_ Saturday #33

Student loans were never supposed to leave you staggering under debt that would make a loan-shark blush Hekate Saturday #36

I don't disagree, but then again I had 20,000 forgiven EdmondDantes_ Sunday #70

Are the goalposts being moved in this discussion? There's a *lot* to be said about lack of college funding... Hekate Sunday #72

Higher education used to be nearly free alarimer 13 hrs ago #125

It's just a variation of limousine liberal that was used out of the 1970s and 80s... Self Esteem Saturday #42

"I've seen very little "talking down to regular people" by Democratic politicians." LAS14 Saturday #43

Well, how about focusing on the present, and adding some historical background electric_blue68 8 hrs ago #132

One example where the Rs have a point. The term Latinx was mostly pushed by Anglo progressives including kelly1mm Saturday #44

Literally nobody outside academe uses that term. yardwork Sunday #49

Not any more. Look at DU posts from 2021-2023. You can use the search function above. Is DU kelly1mm Sunday #56

I feel properly shamed and abashed. yardwork Sunday #57

Misinformation/disinformation needs to be called out. Plus words mean things like 'literally'. kelly1mm Sunday #58

You might want to tell Sen. Warren MichMan Sunday #60

It's nothing new. VP Agnew referred to 'An effete core of impudent snobs' Ping Tung Sunday #47

You are being gaslit and it comes from Republican propaganda. yardwork Sunday #48

Agree! Well there is the whole divide and conquer strategy the opposition has been Kashkakat v.2.0 Sunday #50

Probably from Frank Luntz... kirby Sunday #51

At one point I wondered this too, however... ThePartyThatListens Sunday #52

Could you be more specific about (i quote you) electric_blue68 Yesterday #96

It's still on right now, so turn to Morning Joe ThePartyThatListens 22 hrs ago #112

I'll see if I can find it bc I finally went to sleep electric_blue68 7 hrs ago #133

MAGAts Sneederbunk Sunday #53

From republican talking points and their upmanship. republianmushroom Sunday #59

White males must have no identity maxrandb Sunday #64

Do you want an honest answer from someone who is in the bottom 80% and who has lived around them a lot? DSandra Sunday #65

That also applies to the Republican Party. The most powerful of them are the professional class... and so on. In It to Win It Sunday #67

Later in life I haven't had much money but I get a few special items from Trader's & Whole Foods electric_blue68 Yesterday #97

I'm talking about the people who have power... DSandra 6 hrs ago #134

I understand that, and that applies to the Republican Party as well. In It to Win It 5 hrs ago #136

As a lifelong Democrat DemonGoddess Yesterday #103

But much of the Democratic Party power is among the property owners, the people who are already affluent... DSandra 6 hrs ago #135

The media and Fox News... Blue_Tires Sunday #66

as the still-poor child of working class and poor people The Wandering Harper Sunday #71

What were these nauseating moments? dpibel Sunday #78

the 3 big ones The Wandering Harper Sunday #79

Thanks dpibel Sunday #83

The Convention had *plenty* of serious moments! And it's also a get together, nothing wrong with some glitz. electric_blue68 Yesterday #93

when contrasted with the growing wealth disparity, The Wandering Harper Yesterday #94

Well, as someone who became poor, after being middle class for about half her life, and was/is concerned about issues.. electric_blue68 Yesterday #98

you said you're concerned about these things because you're a Democrat The Wandering Harper Yesterday #99

Sorry to hear about your local Dems. Our Party can *always* use improvement... electric_blue68 Yesterday #102

yep, born in '73 The Wandering Harper Yesterday #104

Ah, good luck w that. And... electric_blue68 Yesterday #105

This message was self-deleted by its author The Wandering Harper Yesterday #106

thank you. My mother was about as terrrified on election night 1980 The Wandering Harper Yesterday #107

third times the charm I hope The Wandering Harper 11 hrs ago #129

"Is there a part of Democratic politics that I'm missing? I honestly feel like I'm being gaslit." B.See Sunday #73

For 10 or 20 years I've been made uncomfortable when... LAS14 Sunday #75

Regarding ditch diggers soandso Yesterday #88

I wish I were familiar with Mark Rowe. I'm only barely aware of Mark Cuban. LAS14 16 hrs ago #120

And since when B.See Yesterday #89

THIS ☝️ electric_blue68 Yesterday #92

No way are policies the problem. It's the messaging that's the problem. nt LAS14 16 hrs ago #121

Well that's a surprise, because I could've sworn you wrote B.See 14 hrs ago #123

Flesh that out for me if you can, because I think this is the very opposite of Joe Biden's policies and agenda In It to Win It Yesterday #91

It's not the policies that are the problem when compared with the GOP. It's the messaging. nt LAS14 16 hrs ago #122

Ask Adlai Stevenson. no_hypocrisy Sunday #76

Ever heard getting Democrats to agree on anything is like herding cats? Freethinker65 Sunday #77

Projection Charmin One Sunday #80

RobertReich, for one. elleng Sunday #81

I'll take George Bush SomedayKindaLove Sunday #84

I don't think you missed it Tweedy Yesterday #87

from the race/religion elitists eShirl Yesterday #100

It's because you are being gaslit DemonGoddess Yesterday #101

I think it means... Tommy Carcetti Yesterday #108

Democratic politicians generally aren't stupid FBaggins Yesterday #110

Re the border issue In It to Win It 20 hrs ago #115

You are being gaslit - Elite is everything they don't like about democrats tulipsandroses 19 hrs ago #117

Many Dem politicians are incredibly rich alarimer 13 hrs ago #124

Because we have at least high normal IQ's Irish_Dem 13 hrs ago #126

Why Kamala are you not asking for a recount. When you know Musk and Trump were planing to steal the election. All they h rich7862 13 hrs ago #127

Remember limousine liberals? wryter2000 12 hrs ago #128