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yardwork

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Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:40 AM 18 hrs ago

Maybe too many Americans are dumb. [View all]

By "dumb," I mean too lazy to do the hard work required to read, reflect, and learn. Dumb people don't bother with that. They "do their own research" by watching videos on TikTok, YouTube, and Facebook. They watch 30 seconds, get reinforced in their opinion, and walk away with their minds closed to anything different. That's dumb.

People can be educated but still dumb. Dumb is encouraging your students to vote against Harris to "teach the Democrats a lesson" about US policy in the Middle East - thus allowing Trump to be elected and enact a far worse policy. That's dumb.

Lots of people in the news media are dumb. They ignore thousands of outrageous things Trump says and does, then hone in on Biden when he stumbles over a word. False equivalence is a dumb approach to reporting the news. It's not news, it's just shoveling lies around. It's also pretty easy ro see through, if you bother to tear yourself away from Fox News for a couple minutes. Not noticing the false equivalence is dumb.

When I was growing up, I knew lots of smart people. They weren't all educated, but they were smart. They ran farms and small businesses. They read and reflected on things. They argued over Nixon v Humphrey, but they were arguments about policy. Very few people liked Wallace. He didn't get the nomination. Nixon won and that was a mistake, but it wasn't a totally dumb mistake. People had reasons to choose Nixon. I didn't agree with them, but they weren't dumb in the way that voting for Trump is totally, utterly irredeemably dumb.

I'm sure I'll be called an elitest for calling Americans dumb. I'm out of fucks to give about that. I'm supposed to believe that Trump won because Kamala Harris invited Oprah to the convention?

Picking a hateful, doddering fool who bellowed lies and promised to destroy our country's government, because of the price of eggs? That's dumb.

I understand that people are frustrated and tired. But the people I know who helped elect Trump are not poor. They're not exhausted. They're just dumb.

Go ahead. Let me have it.

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Maybe too many Americans are dumb. [View all] yardwork 18 hrs ago OP
Intellectually lazy or shallow. Or both. ms liberty 17 hrs ago #1
I have been mulling over the question of whether Harris could have defeated Ocelot II 17 hrs ago #2
This is what I've been thinking, too. yardwork 17 hrs ago #6
I blame the Kardashians and other "reality" shows..... now it's cool to be stupid. groundloop 15 hrs ago #64
That's where Trump got his start. Dumb fake reality shows. yardwork 15 hrs ago #68
The dumbing up of AmeriKKKa,.... magicarpet 11 hrs ago #106
Oh,.. let's not forget the dumbest of them all magicarpet 11 hrs ago #107
It all changed when Obama was elected. ECL213 15 hrs ago #67
It might be a coincidence, but the timing is sure suspicious. yardwork 15 hrs ago #69
The task escalated from defeating a candidate to defeating Russian, Chinese, Iranian and far right disinformation. mahina 3 hrs ago #139
The ONLY thing i disagree with you on is cyndensco 17 hrs ago #3
This NewHendoLib 17 hrs ago #5
Thanks! yardwork 17 hrs ago #7
+1 RockRaven 17 hrs ago #10
I think the qualifier makes it more powerful jfz9580m 16 hrs ago #56
Thank you! yardwork 15 hrs ago #59
Oh, wow, are you ever on track! soldierant 8 hrs ago #125
Thank you! jfz9580m 8 hrs ago #126
Give systems more resources. I would not use less than 32GB of RAM TheKentuckian 7 hrs ago #131
This is why I basically withdrew... Hugin 17 hrs ago #4
No you are right...I have two sons and they are intelligent but dumb JT45242 17 hrs ago #8
We saw some of this in 2000, and then it accelerated in 2016. yardwork 17 hrs ago #12
But they and huge parts of their generation are the worst purity voters. Mariana 15 hrs ago #60
The same kind of targeted propaganda. EarlG explained it well. yardwork 15 hrs ago #61
Many have been vouchered into ignorance. Jit423 17 hrs ago #9
George Carlin was right!. Stupid People EVERYWHERE IrishBubbaLiberal 17 hrs ago #11
Speaking of George Carlin, here he is on Olbermann's old MSNBC show "Countdown". keep_left 15 hrs ago #72
Do I miss him. His voice would be so relevant today. Evolve Dammit 15 hrs ago #76
Stupid people reproduce like bunnies IronLionZion 17 hrs ago #13
And now it's glorified not fooled 17 hrs ago #14
I think that dumb markodochartaigh 17 hrs ago #15
54% of adults are literate to just below a sixth grade level. Hotler 17 hrs ago #16
Literacy is a hidden issue. yardwork 16 hrs ago #39
Wow! ReRe 12 hrs ago #97
This message was self-deleted by its author Hotler 11 hrs ago #100
Italian economist explains the 5 laws of stupid people. Worth a read. Pepsidog 17 hrs ago #17
There is also a great you tube video on the mass psychosis that fits JT45242 17 hrs ago #18
That is fascinating! yardwork 16 hrs ago #31
Nixon wasn't a meat puppet. Every Republican President and nominee starting with Reagan has been a meat puppet. hunter 17 hrs ago #19
HW Bush wasn't stupid peregrinus 16 hrs ago #26
HW Bush was ethically compromised. hunter 16 hrs ago #37
Agreed, but compare him to Trump... yardwork 16 hrs ago #40
Cmon, give us a source. raccoon 16 hrs ago #42
Not even light work. I just note how people refuse to JCMach1 17 hrs ago #20
I know a bunch of them myself kimbutgar 17 hrs ago #21
Eliminating the draft has changed our country dlk 17 hrs ago #22
And in the sixties, with the war in Vietnam, the draft brought organized rebellion and critical thinking to new levels. SupportSanity 9 hrs ago #120
Many people do not have good critical thinking skills Buckeyeblue 17 hrs ago #23
How did you hear me in my kitchen last night? BigmanPigman 16 hrs ago #24
K&R Solly Mack 16 hrs ago #25
Willfully ignorant, lazy, irresponsible, selfish, hate filled, racist and sexist. Irish_Dem 16 hrs ago #27
Willfully, or just plain, ignorant is the answer. The rest of your list hits the spot too. Magoo48 16 hrs ago #33
Most of the MAGAs I know are lying when they spout Trump nonsense. Irish_Dem 16 hrs ago #36
Okay, you've had it buddy. I used my rec-ing ball on you. jaxexpat 16 hrs ago #28
I thought Bill Maher had a good take on this. Littlered 16 hrs ago #29
What exactly is the party's social agenda? Stuckinthebush 16 hrs ago #34
"social agenda" means everyone treated like human beings Skittles 11 hrs ago #104
Bill Maher is dumb. yardwork 16 hrs ago #38
preach it, yardwork Skittles 11 hrs ago #109
do you not get it? Skittles 11 hrs ago #101
Gaslighting John Shaft 7 hrs ago #130
Willful ignorance! Nt Grumpy Old Guy 16 hrs ago #30
We have reaped the rewards of 40 years of the intentional destruction of American education. flashman13 16 hrs ago #32
that's how they want them 4catsmom 16 hrs ago #35
"It's the army they didn't have to pay for." Yep. That's IT. RIGHT THERE. calimary 16 hrs ago #47
Feature, not a glitch. Iggo 16 hrs ago #41
It's not about being merely "dumb" Blue_Tires 16 hrs ago #43
That's my definition of dumb, right there. yardwork 16 hrs ago #48
You are absolutely RIGHT. They're dumb. They dumbly choose against reading and lifelong learning as essential. ancianita 16 hrs ago #44
This, right here: yardwork 16 hrs ago #54
Fine. Appreciated, but ancianita 15 hrs ago #81
Maybe????? If this election isn't proof positive, nothing else is. Vinca 16 hrs ago #45
I was trying to leave the door open for argument... yardwork 16 hrs ago #49
It's a winning argument, so no, ancianita 14 hrs ago #85
Republicans wanna finish the job by getting rid of the Dept of Education. BradBo 16 hrs ago #46
They are nothing if not consistent. yardwork 16 hrs ago #51
They are dumb DownriverDem 16 hrs ago #50
Remember half of them are below average........ lastlib 16 hrs ago #52
The Republicans, with their far-reaching propaganda media, have made every single Democrat in office hadEnuf 16 hrs ago #53
This. And too many of us go along with it yardwork 16 hrs ago #58
This right here. hadEnuf 15 hrs ago #77
Bingo. yardwork 14 hrs ago #86
Maybe?? n/t Timewas 16 hrs ago #55
I am having a little difficulty viewing someone who calls themselves yardwork as elitist. You are right, they are dumb. camartinwv 16 hrs ago #57
They also like to learn the hard way quite a lot. Crowman2009 15 hrs ago #62
I think working poor who vote fascist are so miserable that they want to destroy everything around them, yaesu 15 hrs ago #63
The majority of poor people voted for Harris, though. yardwork 15 hrs ago #65
Ask any of them BigMin28 15 hrs ago #66
Maybe? relayerbob 15 hrs ago #70
Idiots actually IbogaProject 15 hrs ago #71
Don't forget that an unanticipated benefit of long workdays for the corporations LT Barclay 15 hrs ago #73
Great post! Very good points. My only comment would be that neither Nixon or Evolve Dammit 15 hrs ago #74
We are Dumb All Over JoseBalow 15 hrs ago #75
Dumb and evil. When one part has gigantic signs at their convention MaryMagdaline 15 hrs ago #78
They watch Fox, listen to Joe Rogan, the hundreds of all the RW stuff out there. kerry-is-my-prez 15 hrs ago #79
Every Empire dies... Dan 15 hrs ago #80
I can't disagree, which is sad. yardwork 14 hrs ago #88
It's not a matter of academic intelligence or education Joe Nation 15 hrs ago #82
Just maybe? NoRethugFriends 15 hrs ago #83
Polly, in Sir Terry Pratchett's 'Monstrous Regiment' GoneOffShore 15 hrs ago #84
I just watched these three documentaries... LaRaven 14 hrs ago #87
Welcome back, and thank you! yardwork 14 hrs ago #90
Thanks. I'm downloading episode 1 of brainwashed. scipan 12 hrs ago #98
Brainwashed is good - a little weak with the interviews LaRaven 6 hrs ago #132
Not dumb. Gullible, misinformed, naive. Martin68 14 hrs ago #89
To that I would add frequently obtuse, complicit and/or hypocritical. PeaceWave 2 hrs ago #140
Every morning I visit the Michigan News Agency... Orange Buffoon 14 hrs ago #91
Half of the Population of the USA is Below Average in Intelligence. MineralMan 14 hrs ago #92
I'll let you have it -- kudos, that is ! eppur_se_muova 13 hrs ago #93
I remember the 2000 election. yardwork 13 hrs ago #95
I don't care if you call them dumb, stupid, or ignorant. GoodRaisin 13 hrs ago #94
My red town is full of dumb people KS Toronado 13 hrs ago #96
"Dumb" being too kind a word, imo. My term of choice is B.See 12 hrs ago #99
That's my definition of dumb. yardwork 11 hrs ago #102
K n R Faux pas 11 hrs ago #103
Blaming voters is like a business blaming its customers after a competitor gives it a beating. Doodley 11 hrs ago #105
Disagree. The government is not a business. yardwork 9 hrs ago #116
I was using a metaphor to show the futility of blaming voters. Doodley 5 hrs ago #136
I've come to think of the founding fathers as nave John Farmer 11 hrs ago #108
Jefferson worried about that. yardwork 9 hrs ago #117
Bonhoeffer on stupidity HUAJIAO 11 hrs ago #110
No maybe about it amuse bouche 10 hrs ago #111
Excellent post, yardwork! K&R brer cat 10 hrs ago #112
Thanks! yardwork 9 hrs ago #118
George Carlin said: Godot51 10 hrs ago #113
Moral/ethical wasteland moondust 10 hrs ago #114
Agreed. Citizens lost a sense of responsibility. yardwork 9 hrs ago #119
Exactly. moondust 8 hrs ago #124
All in the maggot plan, dumb down Americans. Clouds Passing 10 hrs ago #115
The Southern Strategy and the Powell Doctrine. yardwork 9 hrs ago #121
Wait until they realize the absolute truth that we are all one race, the human race. Clouds Passing 7 hrs ago #128
What I'll let you have Just Jerome 9 hrs ago #122
No argument krkaufman 9 hrs ago #123
Dumb as fuck. orangecrush 7 hrs ago #127
Not elitist. You're right. They're just dumber than a box of hammers. Scrivener7 7 hrs ago #129
...Maybe? Karasu 6 hrs ago #133
The MSM, the internet and now Trump Aussie105 6 hrs ago #134
Intellectually lazy... róisín_dubh 6 hrs ago #135
Message auto-removed Name removed 5 hrs ago #137
The very young and foolish are easily led astray. Aussie105 4 hrs ago #138
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