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In reply to the discussion: From Substack: Why does No One Understand the Real Reason Trump Won? [View all]chowder66
(11,517 posts)5. The sane-washing and the both-siderism of most media didn't help either.
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                        From Substack: Why does No One Understand the Real Reason Trump Won? [View all]
							kerry-is-my-prez
							Nov 2024
							OP
                        
        
        Flooding the news zones with bullshit until even the NYT and WaPo start repeating it.
        erronis
        Nov 2024
        #2
      
        
        It's bad enough, but the mainstream media we try to rely on pick up what they say and repeats it verbatim
        Walleye
        Nov 2024
        #3
      
        
        Trump lost in 2020 because he was a dumpster fire, but COVID was still affecting the US through 2022
        haele
        Nov 2024
        #63
      
        
        I suspect many people WANT a rude, loud, blathering, large man for President.
        raging moderate
        Nov 2024
        #83
      
        
        Of course there are multiple reasons, but right wing media does what it does, and it works well.
        Trust_Reality
        Nov 2024
        #30
      
        
        Yup....and their racist sexist crap of not voting for a woman...regardless of the pain it will cause
        PortTack
        Nov 2024
        #23
      
        
        The post-birth abortion bullshit and gender reassignment surgery at schools sealed my agreement with you.
        Pacifist Patriot
        Nov 2024
        #24
      
        
        I've been saying this since the day after the election. The right wing media's lies, disinformation, and misinformation
        Martin68
        Nov 2024
        #20
      
        
        Agreed, and the MSM, Cable, press etc. are/were complicit as they didn't clearly...
        brush
        Nov 2024
        #29
      
        
        MAGA has a better amplification network and they spent 20 years developing it, it doesn't matter if Trump wears a narrow
        uponit7771
        Nov 2024
        #52
      
        
        I'm old enough to remember when Karl Rove said. "We create our own reality."  But I'm not sure our path should include,,
        surfered
        Nov 2024
        #61
      
        
        Left talk radio / alternative media won't work because Democrats don't believe there is a grand conspiracy to hide the..
        Fish700
        Nov 2024
        #77
      
        
        It has worked, and continues to work at MSNBC, Mike Malloy, Democracy Now, KTNF in MN, etc.
        keep_left
        Nov 2024
        #79
      
        
        To get people to fucking listen, will need to be entertaining FIRST. Few will tune in to hear someone read the newspaper
        SoFlaBro
        Nov 2024
        #98
      
        
        Well, Air America had some pretty entertaining shows, but they went bankrupt anyway.
        keep_left
        Nov 2024
        #105
      
        
        Fuckstain Rush Limpdong was on multiple AM stations in the same fucking market with a couple hundred listeners.
        SoFlaBro
        Nov 2024
        #106
      
        
        Yep. Ask Randi Rhodes. Her #1 show was cancelled by the network for Limbaugh's.
        keep_left
        Nov 2024
        #108
      
        
        The working class is not the same as the working poor. One of those is never talked about.
        Autumn
        Nov 2024
        #71
      
        
        Yes, conservative control of news and successful voter suppression. Voter suppression isn't mentioned in the, why
        ShazamIam
        Nov 2024
        #86
      
        
        Exactly. Rs weren't brainwashed in a vacuum, it was years of Fox and rw media pounding propaganda into their heads.
        Pepsidog
        Nov 2024
        #88
      
        
        Yes. And the task escalated from defeating a candidate to defeating Russian, Chinese, Iranian and far right disinfo
        mahina
        Nov 2024
        #101
      
        
        The question would then be: why do so many Americans choose to consume crappy right wing media?
        muriel_volestrangler
        Nov 2024
        #111