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29. Agreed, and the MSM, Cable, press etc. are/were complicit as they didn't clearly...

Reply to kerry-is-my-prez (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 02:20 PM

16 hrs ago

and definitively state over and over that the bloviating, weaving, white nationalist asshole is glaringly unfit for office and should not be allowed anywhere near the WH again.

Period.

That wasn't done, instead most sane-washed the orange turd.

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From Substack: Why does No One Understand the Real Reason Trump Won? [View all] kerry-is-my-prez 17 hrs ago OP

The war on reality lame54 17 hrs ago #1

Flooding the news zones with bullshit until even the NYT and WaPo start repeating it. erronis 17 hrs ago #2

It's bad enough, but the mainstream media we try to rely on pick up what they say and repeats it verbatim Walleye 17 hrs ago #3

I disagree DaddyShark 17 hrs ago #4

We in the US are ignoring this fact in our Nationalist Bubble haele 16 hrs ago #11

THIS! THIS! THIS! THIS! THIS! THIS! InstantGratification 15 hrs ago #32

People in America didn't see the total at the grocery store and say, jimfields33 15 hrs ago #37

Sure - but how did that translate into voting for Trump? yardwork 15 hrs ago #41

Voters are not always reasonable or logical. jimfields33 14 hrs ago #55

Inflation wasn't bad under Trump TheFarseer 8 hrs ago #87

Inflation took off during Trump's last year. yardwork 8 hrs ago #94

Inflation in 2020 was low. It was 1.4% In 2021 it was 7.0% EdmondDantes_ 8 hrs ago #95

Trump lost in 2020. That was toward the end of KPN 15 hrs ago #49

Trump lost in 2020 because he was a dumpster fire, but COVID was still affecting the US through 2022 haele 14 hrs ago #63

Your last sentence is key. yardwork 16 hrs ago #28

Multiple Factors Metaphorical 16 hrs ago #31

Here's my frustration. yardwork 15 hrs ago #33

Correct Cosmocat 15 hrs ago #38

most people aren't paying attention MadameButterfly 14 hrs ago #60

Voters Avalon Sparks 11 hrs ago #75

In that case, there was nothing we could have done differently. yardwork 11 hrs ago #78

Different Avalon Sparks 11 hrs ago #80

+1 leftstreet 15 hrs ago #45

Inflation certainly played a role, but in my view a lesser KPN 14 hrs ago #50

I suspect many people WANT a rude, loud, blathering, large man for President. raging moderate 10 hrs ago #83

Aside from the Interest Rates or flooding the nation with paper money Dan 14 hrs ago #59

Yep this article sums up the Democratic Party thumper2547 13 hrs ago #66

You have some good points DaddyShark 12 hrs ago #70

I completely agree with you Jk23 13 hrs ago #68

The sane-washing and the both-siderism of most media didn't help either. chowder66 17 hrs ago #5

Finally someone pointing to massive disinformation campaign as reason oldmanlynn 17 hrs ago #6

It wasn't just the right wing propagandists. lees1975 16 hrs ago #7

Thank you for this Flatrat 16 hrs ago #8

Probably because there's no "one" reason she lost. BannonsLiver 16 hrs ago #9

It's going to takes months of research to come up with valid reasons Kaleva 16 hrs ago #17

Of course there are multiple reasons, but right wing media does what it does, and it works well. Trust_Reality 16 hrs ago #30

Exactly. The media is part of it Bluetus 15 hrs ago #39

Blue, I basically agree with every point you bringup. slightlv 7 hrs ago #96

Depressing how so few understand FDR and his genius Bluetus 7 hrs ago #97

Nope. It's still the profound stupidity of a significant percentage flvegan 16 hrs ago #10

Agree Kaleva 16 hrs ago #16

Yup....and their racist sexist crap of not voting for a woman...regardless of the pain it will cause PortTack 16 hrs ago #23

The post-birth abortion bullshit and gender reassignment surgery at schools sealed my agreement with you. Pacifist Patriot 16 hrs ago #24

They grabbed the excuses because they wanted excuses. yardwork 15 hrs ago #34

Bingo! PortTack 14 hrs ago #57

This is true also but the average IQ is 100 - not very high. kerry-is-my-prez 16 hrs ago #25

Nothing to say except K&R mountain grammy 16 hrs ago #12

Fox, Joe Rogan, etc put out what people want Kaleva 16 hrs ago #13

Bingo. I have quoted Terry Pratchett a number of times. love_katz 14 hrs ago #62

I 100% agree. Kaleva 13 hrs ago #69

It was a bad idea for Dems to go after Rogan womanofthehills 8 hrs ago #93

An Interesting perspective! Kaleva 6 hrs ago #99

ostrich head in sand analysis. WarGamer 16 hrs ago #14

And I will continue to disagree every time. yardwork 15 hrs ago #36

I agree with you BUT we have to deal with what we've got... WarGamer 15 hrs ago #42

Agreed. How do we compete? yardwork 15 hrs ago #44

What did Obama do? WarGamer 15 hrs ago #47

I hope you're right. A lot has changed in 10 years, though. yardwork 13 hrs ago #67

Most of the media Katcat 16 hrs ago #15

I fully agree.. Escape 16 hrs ago #18

People live for conspiracy theories. kerry-is-my-prez 16 hrs ago #26

Most of the voters know exactly who and what Trump is. Irish_Dem 16 hrs ago #19

I've been saying this since the day after the election. The right wing media's lies, disinformation, and misinformation Martin68 16 hrs ago #20

Precisely. It's an epidemic. Mr. Mustard 2023 16 hrs ago #21

Bingo Sugarcoated 16 hrs ago #22

Media is a lesser portion - Nigrum Cattus 16 hrs ago #27

Agreed, and the MSM, Cable, press etc. are/were complicit as they didn't clearly... brush 16 hrs ago #29

This take is dated. The difference maker was social media manipulation JCMach1 15 hrs ago #35

Dems will never truly win as long as the reich-wing noise machine exists hurple 15 hrs ago #40

Yep -- THIS is the BIGGEST REASON Martin Eden 15 hrs ago #43

Well, poor messaging has been screamed since 2015 to no avail. NT. SayItLoud 15 hrs ago #46

MAGA has a better amplification network and they spent 20 years developing it, it doesn't matter if Trump wears a narrow uponit7771 14 hrs ago #52

Trump didn't win. Harris lost leftstreet 15 hrs ago #48

No doubt Tweedy 14 hrs ago #51

Exactly! Tesha 14 hrs ago #53

Just nowforever 14 hrs ago #54

All for the money Quanto Magnus 14 hrs ago #56

There's also an unspoken war on education. SleeplessinSoCal 14 hrs ago #58

Look at that crazy psycho fuckhead in Oklahoma. Initech 11 hrs ago #73

I'm afraid we're not up to the fight needed against the SleeplessinSoCal 10 hrs ago #84

We'd better. The fate of the world is at stake. Initech 8 hrs ago #89

I'm old enough to remember when Karl Rove said. "We create our own reality." But I'm not sure our path should include,, surfered 14 hrs ago #61

Democracy Drowns in Disinformation IronLionZion 14 hrs ago #64

We need our own media ecosystem, and we need to *support* it. Until then... keep_left 14 hrs ago #65

Left talk radio / alternative media won't work because Democrats don't believe there is a grand conspiracy to hide the.. Fish700 11 hrs ago #77

It has worked, and continues to work at MSNBC, Mike Malloy, Democracy Now, KTNF in MN, etc. keep_left 11 hrs ago #79

To get people to fucking listen, will need to be entertaining FIRST. Few will tune in to hear someone read the newspaper SoFlaBro 7 hrs ago #98

Yeah we just need to start telling the truth. Initech 8 hrs ago #90

The working class is not the same as the working poor. One of those is never talked about. Autumn 12 hrs ago #71

Important. elleng 8 hrs ago #92

The real answer: IT WAS SPITE. And malice. Initech 12 hrs ago #72

Economy Avalon Sparks 11 hrs ago #74

It's everything discussed here, and more LilElf70 11 hrs ago #76

Nexus: a book to recommend Godot51 11 hrs ago #81

yup krkaufman 10 hrs ago #82

ALSO roomtomove 9 hrs ago #85

Yes, conservative control of news and successful voter suppression. Voter suppression isn't mentioned in the, why ShazamIam 9 hrs ago #86

Exactly. Rs weren't brainwashed in a vacuum, it was years of Fox and rw media pounding propaganda into their heads. Pepsidog 8 hrs ago #88

by Michael John Tomasky elleng 8 hrs ago #91

We understand. Dem leadership does not. GregGilman 4 hrs ago #100

Yes. And the task escalated from defeating a candidate to defeating Russian, Chinese, Iranian and far right disinfo mahina 4 hrs ago #101