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In reply to the discussion: "I think that's over." Gen. McCaffrey on NATO [View all]Kid Berwyn
(19,205 posts)45. Reuters: US & Russia holding secret talks in Switzerland
Americans, Russians have held undisclosed talks on Ukraine in Switzerland, sources say
By Gram Slattery and Emma Farge
February 21, 20257:04
Summary
WASHINGTON, Feb 20 (Reuters) - U.S. and Russian participants have met in Switzerland for unofficial talks about the Ukraine war in recent months, including as recently as last week, three sources with knowledge of the matter said.
While the attendees have diplomatic and security experience, they are not government officials and it was not immediately clear if any were sent by their governments, two of the sources said. The sources declined to identify the attendees.
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Trump, in office for just a month, has upended the U.S. approach toward the three-year-old Ukraine conflict, engaging directly with Russian President Vladimir Putin and pushing for a quick deal to end the war.
On Tuesday, top U.S. officials met with Russian officials in Saudi Arabia, including Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov (seen smiling, standing behind traitor trump in the OP).
One of the sources described the Switzerland talks as "Track Two" discussions - diplomatic parlance for unofficial dialogue geared toward improving communication and floating ideas, rather than developing concrete proposals.
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Source: https://www.reuters.com/world/americans-russians-have-discussed-ukraine-war-through-swiss-side-channel-sources-2025-02-20/
By Gram Slattery and Emma Farge
February 21, 20257:04
Summary
* Talks described as 'Track Two' conversations
* Attendees not government officials, unclear if they were sent by governments
* Other details also unclear, including whether Ukrainians joined
* Geneva meeting coincided with Munich security gathering
WASHINGTON, Feb 20 (Reuters) - U.S. and Russian participants have met in Switzerland for unofficial talks about the Ukraine war in recent months, including as recently as last week, three sources with knowledge of the matter said.
While the attendees have diplomatic and security experience, they are not government officials and it was not immediately clear if any were sent by their governments, two of the sources said. The sources declined to identify the attendees.
Snip...
Trump, in office for just a month, has upended the U.S. approach toward the three-year-old Ukraine conflict, engaging directly with Russian President Vladimir Putin and pushing for a quick deal to end the war.
On Tuesday, top U.S. officials met with Russian officials in Saudi Arabia, including Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov (seen smiling, standing behind traitor trump in the OP).
One of the sources described the Switzerland talks as "Track Two" discussions - diplomatic parlance for unofficial dialogue geared toward improving communication and floating ideas, rather than developing concrete proposals.
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Source: https://www.reuters.com/world/americans-russians-have-discussed-ukraine-war-through-swiss-side-channel-sources-2025-02-20/
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This article (wondering about Turkey, in 2019) says there would have to be a material breach of the treaty
muriel_volestrangler
Thursday
#4
"Palling around with dictators" is what $arah Palin accused Obama of doing. Projection.
OMGWTF
Thursday
#9
Grassroots are gonna decide over the next four years if will remain free or not.
Magoo48
Thursday
#17
You have more faith in the average soldier understanding the nuances of orders from his/her CIC
Arazi
Thursday
#19
Yes Yes! There nothing more stabilization then have most of the world terrified of what-the-fuck.
chouchou
Thursday
#14
Agree...NATO will survive without the US. Putin will not be successful going up against a United EU
PortTack
Thursday
#21
May have started. After calling for Ukraine surrender, Kellogg pulls 180...
Kid Berwyn
Yesterday
#49
I guess we could say US foreign policy is currently incoherent, in flux, or just plain
Martin68
Yesterday
#54