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In reply to the discussion: Hegseth accidentally texted war plans to The Atlantic's editor-in-chief [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(161,377 posts)8. Here is a free link to the article in the OP-This is a major breach of national security
This is a major breach of security. If a Democratic administration had released this type of national security information, there would be calls for impeachment
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I have never seen a breach quite like this. It is not uncommon for national-security officials to communicate on Signal. But the app is used primarily for meeting planning and other logistical mattersnot for detailed and highly confidential discussions of a pending military action. And, of course, Ive never heard of an instance in which a journalist has been invited to such a discussion.
Conceivably, Waltz, by coordinating a national-security-related action over Signal, may have violated several provisions of the Espionage Act, which governs the handling of national defense information, according to several national-security lawyers interviewed by my colleague Shane Harris for this story. Harris asked them to consider a hypothetical scenario in which a senior U.S. official creates a Signal thread for the express purpose of sharing information with Cabinet officials about an active military operation. He did not show them the actual Signal messages or tell them specifically what had occurred.
All of these lawyers said that a U.S. official should not establish a Signal thread in the first place. Information about an active operation would presumably fit the laws definition of national defense information. The Signal app is not approved by the government for sharing classified information. The government has its own systems for that purpose. If officials want to discuss military activity, they should go into a specially designed space known as a sensitive compartmented information facility, or SCIFmost Cabinet-level national-security officials have one installed in their homeor communicate only on approved government equipment, the lawyers said. Normally, cellphones are not permitted inside a SCIF, which suggests that as these officials were sharing information about an active military operation, they could have been moving around in public. Had they lost their phones, or had they been stolen, the potential risk to national security would have been severe.....
Waltz and the other Cabinet-level officials were already potentially violating government policy and the law simply by texting one another about the operation. But when Waltz added a journalistpresumably by mistaketo his principals committee, he created new security and legal issues. Now the group was transmitting information to someone not authorized to receive it. That is the classic definition of a leak, even if it was unintentional, and even if the recipient of the leak did not actually believe it was a leak until Yemen came under American attack.
All along, members of the Signal group were aware of the need for secrecy and operations security. In his text detailing aspects of the forthcoming attack on Houthi targets, Hegseth wrote to the groupwhich, at the time, included meWe are currently clean on OPSEC.
Conceivably, Waltz, by coordinating a national-security-related action over Signal, may have violated several provisions of the Espionage Act, which governs the handling of national defense information, according to several national-security lawyers interviewed by my colleague Shane Harris for this story. Harris asked them to consider a hypothetical scenario in which a senior U.S. official creates a Signal thread for the express purpose of sharing information with Cabinet officials about an active military operation. He did not show them the actual Signal messages or tell them specifically what had occurred.
All of these lawyers said that a U.S. official should not establish a Signal thread in the first place. Information about an active operation would presumably fit the laws definition of national defense information. The Signal app is not approved by the government for sharing classified information. The government has its own systems for that purpose. If officials want to discuss military activity, they should go into a specially designed space known as a sensitive compartmented information facility, or SCIFmost Cabinet-level national-security officials have one installed in their homeor communicate only on approved government equipment, the lawyers said. Normally, cellphones are not permitted inside a SCIF, which suggests that as these officials were sharing information about an active military operation, they could have been moving around in public. Had they lost their phones, or had they been stolen, the potential risk to national security would have been severe.....
Waltz and the other Cabinet-level officials were already potentially violating government policy and the law simply by texting one another about the operation. But when Waltz added a journalistpresumably by mistaketo his principals committee, he created new security and legal issues. Now the group was transmitting information to someone not authorized to receive it. That is the classic definition of a leak, even if it was unintentional, and even if the recipient of the leak did not actually believe it was a leak until Yemen came under American attack.
All along, members of the Signal group were aware of the need for secrecy and operations security. In his text detailing aspects of the forthcoming attack on Houthi targets, Hegseth wrote to the groupwhich, at the time, included meWe are currently clean on OPSEC.
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Hegseth accidentally texted war plans to The Atlantic's editor-in-chief [View all]
Nevilledog
Mar 24
OP
Here is a free link to the article in the OP-This is a major breach of national security
LetMyPeopleVote
Mar 24
#8
This is one reason you don't put a completely unqualified person in a critical role.
Jim__
Mar 24
#13
This is why they DO put these kind in place--to sow chaos and breed fear.
live love laugh
Mar 24
#17
Rep Pat Ryan: If House Republicans won't hold a hearing on how this happened IMMEDIATELY, I'll do it my damn self.
Dennis Donovan
Mar 24
#16
"accidental" or incompetence/negligence - & KRASNOV oblivious - resignation or firing all around
UTUSN
Mar 24
#46
"Boy is my face red! I actually meant to send it to Vladimir Putin." Pete Kegsbreath
NBachers
Mar 24
#58
This whole crew from Waltz to Hegseth and on down, behave as if they're
allegorical oracle
Mar 24
#64
MaddowBlog-Team Trump accidentally shared war plans with a journalist, sparking scandal
LetMyPeopleVote
Mar 24
#73
Has anyone heard the national news folks call for Hegseth's immediate resignation? nt
ShazamIam
Mar 24
#82
"The thread is a demonstration of the deep and thoughtful policy coordination between senior officials."
tanyev
Mar 24
#83
Imagine that some body named Pfc Jake Smith accidentally leaked classified info to a reporter.
Ping Tung
Mar 24
#85
Fist bumping emoji's as over 30 children were being blown up. Stunning immaturity! Nt
Quixote1818
Mar 24
#89
What's disgusting is that nothing will happen and it will be forgotten by the end of the week
kimbutgar
Mar 24
#91
This Is What Happens When You Appoint Somebody So Unqualified to Such a Vital Position !
Daleuhlmann
Mar 25
#93