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160. Quoting from your own post

Mon Mar 31, 2025, 05:05 AM

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"Hello? Has the concept of original thought totally escaped you?
This is what is prized in the world of writing."

The point is the piece presented in the OP (i.e. the discussion) - offers very little in support of its assertion. Namely, "A powerful cell is operating : The Leak To The Atlantic Was No Accident." And when skepticism along with criticism of a lack of anything tangible is mounted against ... It now becomes 'original thought'. So it seems we should maybe make some sort of distinction. Is this an exercise in 'creative thinking' - and an "imagine, if" as you would have it - or, as the headline would seem to infer, is this something that the author is claiming as actually taking place?

And/or does that distinction really not make much difference in your mind?

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OH in my wettest of dreams! HAB911 Sunday #2

I hope this is true. yardwork Sunday #3

I thought the same. A highly credible responsible journalist. Would have been a very different story had it been Amaryllis Sunday #32

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Ugh. progressoid Monday #142

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You reveal a fundamental misunderstanding of how Wikipedia works and how to use it. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Monday #145

I REALLY want to believe something like this is going on. Nittersing Sunday #6

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One cell is not enough. That is the information cell. Tetrachloride Sunday #8

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Yes Yes Yes...We all know ButchMcMuffin Sunday #60

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the word NJCher Sunday #66

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He also consistently misspelled Waltz's name. n/t TygrBright Sunday #125

also NJCher Sunday #45

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RE: Fox News, broadcast on the Armed Forces Network around the world, as the only news source. reACTIONary Sunday #37

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Being an old H2O Man Sunday #123

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