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Kid Berwyn

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36. Trump had Top Secrets and lied about it.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 07:20 PM
Jul 16

He also lied about his relationship with Epstein, a guy with jets that he could fly anywhere on the planet. Epstein’s brother said Trump and Melanie first consummated their love on one of Jeff’s jet. Jeff himself said he introduced the happy couple. Something else that needs to be remembered: Both Trump and Epstein were friends with Roger Stone and Roy Cohn, this guy:





The Final Lesson Donald Trump Never Learned From Roy Cohn

The unrepentant political hitman who taught a younger Trump how to flout the rules didn’t get away with it forever.


By MICHAEL KRUSE
Politico, September 19, 2019

One of Donald Trump’s most important mentors, one of the most reviled men in American political history, is about to have another moment.

Roy Cohn, who has been described by people who knew him as “a snake,” “a scoundrel” and “a new strain of son of a bitch,” is the subject of a new documentary out this week from producer and director Matt Tyrnauer. It’s an occasion to once again look at Cohn and ask how much of him and his “savage,” “abrasive” and “amoral” behavior is visible in the behavior of the current president. Trump, as has been well-established, learned so much from the truculent, unrepentant Cohn about how to get what he wants, and he pines for Cohn and his notorious capabilities still. Trump, after all, reportedly has said so himself, and it’s now the name of this film: “Where’s My Roy Cohn?”

What Cohn could, and did, get away with was the very engine of his existence. The infamous chief counsel for the red-baiting, Joseph McCarthy-chaired Senate subcommittee in the 1950s, Cohn was indicted four times from the mid-’60s to the early ’70s—for stock-swindling and obstructing justice and perjury and bribery and conspiracy and extortion and blackmail and filing false reports. And three times he was acquitted—the fourth ended in a mistrial—giving him a kind of sneering, sinister sheen of invulnerability. Cohn, Tyrnauer’s work reaffirms, took his sanction-skirting capers and twisted them into a sort of suit of armor.

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“I decided long ago,” Cohn once told Penthouse, “to make my own rules.”

He was acquitted in ’64, and he was acquitted in ’69, and he was acquitted in ’71, all the while thumbing his nose at the feds, but Cohn’s screw-you stance was a lifelong philosophy, entitlement plus boldness.

He was “an incredibly spoiled princeling of an only child,” Cohn cousin David Lloyd Marcus told me. “He always got his way,” recalled his favorite aunt. As an adult, the resting expression on his face, which was marred by a scar that ran like a scrape down the middle of his nose, was a mixture of “arrogant disdain” and a “whipped-dog look,” people observed, “caught somewhere between a pout and a challenging glare.”

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https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/09/19/roy-cohn-donald-trump-documentary-228144



An important picture that ties things from commie-hunting Joe McCarthy era to Richard Nixon to Ronald Reagan to Donald Trump via Roger Stone and Associates and the late Jeffrey Epstein:



The Ghost of Roy Cohn

BY TERRY MELANSON · AUGUST 24, 2014

EXCERPT...

In an interview with former NYPD detective James Rothstein, this author discovered that such operations do exist and go far back into America’s secret history. Rothstein is no conspiracy theorist. He is a legend in American law enforcement and speaks from experience. Furthermore, he gave me two notable examples from his time as a detective. Rothstein had an opportunity to have a sit-down with infamous McCarthy committee counsel Roy Cohn. During this sit-down, Cohn admitted to Rothstein that he was part of a rather elaborate sexual blackmail operation that compromised politicians with child prostitutes (Rothstein, no pagination). Cohn told Rothstein that this operation was being carried out as part of the anticommunist crusade of the time (no pagination).

Rothstein also had an opportunity to speak to infamous Watergate burglar Frank Sturgis. During this conversation, Sturgis revealed one of the reasons for breaking into the Watergate. According to Sturgis, there was a “Pedophile Book” hidden away at the Democratic National Committee headquarters (no pagination). The book was supposed to have a list of pedophiles on the American political scene (no pagination). One can only imagine the power G. Gordon Liddy would have held over the government if he had such a book in his possession.

I asked Rothstein if Roy Cohn was a real anticommunist or just using the fear of communism to justify his sex ring. It seemed like a fair question. After all, Cohn had argued against homosexuals being schoolteachers when he himself was a homosexual. Perhaps Cohn’s hypocrisy extended to his anticommunism. Rothstein made it clear that Cohn was a genuine anticommunist (no pagination). Anticommunist sentiments aside, evidence suggests that the sex ring operation started by Cohn was used for more than fighting the threat of domestic communists. Fugitive ex-CIA officer Frank Terpil has claimed that sexual blackmailing operations directed by the CIA were intensive in Washington during the Watergate era (DeCamp 179). Terpil also asserts that his former partner, Ed Wilson, was coordinating one of these sexual blackmail operations (179). In a letter to author Jim Hougan, Terpil revealed Wilson’s modus operandi:

“Historically, one of Wilson’s Agency jobs was to subvert members of both houses [of Congress] by any means necessary…. Certain people could be easily coerced by living out their sexual fantasies in the flesh…. A remembrance of these occasions [was] permanently recorded via selected cameras…. The technicians in charge of filming… were TSD [Technical Services Division of the CIA]. The unwitting porno stars advanced in their political careers, some of [whom] may still be in office.” (Qtd. in DeCamp 179)

According to John DeCamp, a former Nebraska Senator and Vietnam War hero, Wilson’s operation was merely a continuation of the one set up by Cohn (179). When I asked James Rothstein if Palfrey’s outfit was a continuation of the sexual blackmail rings that began with Cohn, he answered in the affirmative (Rothstein, pagination). The NYPD veteran made it clear that Palfrey’s outfit could not exist in Washington unless it was a tool for the power elite and sinister factions of the intelligence community (no pagination). Somewhere in a Queens cemetery, the corpse of a high-powered attorney is smiling in his grave.

SOURCE:

https://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2014/08/24/the-ghost-of-roy-cohn/



The same Roy Cohn who taught Donald Drumpf also schooled Roger Stone and Jeffrey Epstein...



... Who knew what when? In Palo Alto, after Epstein’s conviction, he was a guest at a dinner for the MIT neuroscientist Ed Boyden that was hosted by LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman. At the same dinner Elon Musk introduced Epstein to Mark Zuckerberg. Is money so powerful that it tramples all other considerations? As James Baldwin put it, “I can’t believe what you say, because I see what you do.”

One of the most remarkable moments in Tyrnauer’s documentary comes near the end, when it’s no longer possible to pretend that Cohn isn’t a liar and a fraud, when it’s no longer possible to deny that he lacks both shame and conscience. When Cohn was about to be disbarred in 1986 for defrauding his clients and for taking advantage of a dying and incompetent man, character witnesses began to emerge. There were letters to the court from William F. Buckley Jr., Barbara Walters, William Safire, and, of course, Trump, who wrote that Cohn “has been extremely loyal and extremely honest.” Were Cohn’s parties—was his protection—really that good?...

Source: https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/money-and-power/a29130905/roy-cohn-documentary-wheres-my-roy-cohn/



It’s conceivable Matt Gaetz got some learnin’, too.




Steve Bannon also was pals with Epstein, even coaching him for interviews on tee vee.

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This is a prime example fitting *rump's standard modus operandi of projection in most everything Uncle Joe Jul 16 #1
Exactly! H2O Man Jul 16 #4
Wouldn't it be great if a reporter asked him johnnyfins Jul 16 #2
Yes! H2O Man Jul 16 #5
Thanks for putting it all together Saoirse9 Jul 16 #3
Thanks! H2O Man Jul 16 #7
Same as Donald... homegirl Jul 17 #61
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Strange times indeed! SalviaBlue Jul 16 #42
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I remember Watkins, H2O Man Jul 16 #10
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I remember the two gouts joke story underpants Jul 16 #25
Right. H2O Man Jul 16 #27
k&R spanone Jul 16 #11
Thanks! H2O Man Jul 16 #13
I take great joy in whatching him squirm, lie and hopefully..... spanone Jul 16 #14
One of my friends H2O Man Jul 16 #18
Lately, your posts have been connecting the dots/filling in some blanks for me. yonder Jul 16 #15
Thank you! H2O Man Jul 16 #19
That second paragraph has turned my head Easterncedar Jul 16 #16
You know? H2O Man Jul 16 #20
Right. Easterncedar Jul 16 #44
I'd really like to see the footnote to, "Q-anon - the right-wing nest of retired FBI agents loyal to Rudy Guiliani". flashman13 Jul 16 #17
Sure. H2O Man Jul 16 #22
DURec leftstreet Jul 16 #21
Thanks! H2O Man Jul 16 #23
Most people fail to understand how mainstream the entire convoluted Q mythology of conspiracy theories is among Karasu Jul 16 #24
It is their religion. H2O Man Jul 16 #29
Good resume. How did Epstein make all his alleged fortune, and... Justice matters. Jul 16 #26
Great questions! H2O Man Jul 16 #34
Thank you! This needs to be shown a light on who and where Justice matters. Jul 16 #37
Great post! Wild blueberry Jul 16 #28
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KNR and bookmarking. niyad Jul 16 #30
Thank you! H2O Man Jul 17 #46
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When you mentioned 1988 and Lee Atwater dlk Jul 16 #32
Great call. H2O Man Jul 16 #39
There's a connection dlk Jul 16 #43
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History shows us who plays the long game dlk Jul 17 #50
Rec and bookmarked. Thanks for spending the time to write this. emulatorloo Jul 16 #33
Thank you! H2O Man Jul 17 #53
Excellent summation of events! llmart Jul 16 #35
Thanks! H2O Man Jul 17 #56
Trump had Top Secrets and lied about it. Kid Berwyn Jul 16 #36
The fact that he spoke about the two things in a recent press conference suggests that there may be a connection among mercuryblues Jul 16 #38
I guess it's just because I'm of an advancing age now... slightlv Jul 17 #49
Apropos (sorta), I remember John Dean going on about the hotel he checked into in NY... malthaussen Jul 17 #51
Maria Butina H2O Man Jul 17 #52
Wasn't she the one David Petraeus was involved with.... malthaussen Jul 17 #55
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HUGE K&R! And thanks. 🙂 n/t OneGrassRoot Jul 17 #54
And to think H2O Man Jul 17 #57
I had a gut punch... OneGrassRoot Jul 17 #58
Yes. H2O Man Jul 17 #59
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