I wonder how many people recall what happened the day before Epstein was found dead in his cell?

[AZJonnie]

11. Okay, that's a reasonable angle that occurred to me at the time as well!

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And as you'll see below, I've done a lot of thinking on that. In the end, however, there's a number of pretty decent reasons I find that to be much less likely.

Consider that a victim first reported him to the FBI in 1996, the public accusations of sexual abuse by Epstein began in 2007, and he was first arrested for the abuse circa 2008. Then, as part of, and after the Herald story in 2018, there was a deluge of public accusations made by victims, but he wasn't arrested for 7 months.

For completeness, here's a list of Epstein Victims Who Went Public Pre‑Arrest (July 2019) and their first instances of public statements re: his abuse:
* Maria Farmer – Reported to NYPD and FBI in 1996; gave affidavit and interviews made public in early 2019
* Annie Farmer – Also abused in 1996; part of Maria’s affidavit and media reporting in early 2019
* Johanna Sjoberg – First gave interview publicly alleging abuse in 2007
* Virginia Giuffre (née Roberts) – Allegations first made public in 2011, became widely known by 2015
* Courtney Wild – Known as Jane Doe in 2008–2015 court filings; gave on-record interviews in early 2019
* Sarah Ransome – Filed a lawsuit and gave public interviews in 2017
* Michelle Licata – Interviewed by Miami Herald for the 2018 “Perversion of Justice” series
* Teala Davies – Named in civil suits and appeared publicly in late 2018–early 2019
* Jennifer Araoz – Interviewed by NBC News in early 2019
* Marijke Chartouni – Spoke out publicly in early 2019
* Theresa Helm – Spoke in media interviews starting in early 2019

So questions I think are logical to ask are:
1) He was sentenced the first time in 2008. And after the 2018 Herald story, at least, it was obvious to all that there was a good chance he was heading for arrest/prison, but that didn't happen for 7 more months. Why did these actors not take him out when the getting was good, rather than wait until it would be much harder to accomplish, in federal prison?
2) Why would these people think that offing Epstein, without offing any of the young women, was of such benefit to themselves? They are all witnesses, in some ways better ones than Epstein, actually. Certainly more sympathetic and believable, right?
3) Why haven't any of them apart from Virginia Giuffre alleged abuse by anyone other than Epstein/Maxwell themselves (to this day)? At the very least since Giuffre was the one making the most sweeping accusations and had sued Maxwell, she would've been an obvious target if these men were as ruthless as imagined, but she was alive and free to make accusations for many years, and sued Maxwell for what is generally believed to be for some millions of dollars in 2015.
4) As of August 1, 2019, the unsealing of the Maxwell transcripts was known to be 'soon', but the actual date they were coming out was unknown until they dropped the morning of August 9. But planning to discreetly whack Epstein in prison, while under surveillance (remember, it was the *recording* that didn't work, the camera feeds to security booths were working) in such a professional way that it could fool the ME into believing suicide, and there were no witnesses or recordings, would've involved a lot of pre-planning, probably weeks. So did the organizers just get extremely lucky that they were already in a position to execute him with under 1 days notice, in order to have it appear to the world like Epstein offed himself in response to them being released?
5) If these people were bold, organized, and powerful enough to pull off such a sophisticated job in a federal prison, why not 'suicide' Maxwell as well? Why is she still walking and talking?

In my view, Occam's Razor strongly suggests that the documents dropped, Epstein knew 'this is the end', and took himself out. The 'hit job' storyline involves a lot of questions that defy easy answers, and an awful long string of actions executed with perfect success avoiding a lot of potential points of failure, any one of them dooming the operation to failure or exposure.

But then again, 9/11 was much the same in that regard, so it's not impossible