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TomSlick

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35. I have never bought the canard that a grand jury would indict a ham sandwich.

Reply to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Jul 24, 2025, 05:46 PM

Jul 24

The truth is that the probable cause (or as lawyers say probably because) standard for an indictment is low.

The grand jury can be an important check on prosecutorial over-reach. It all depends on how seriously the grand jury takes its responsibility.

That said, failing to get an indictment is a bad day for a prosecutor. They will be offered a lot of ham sandwiches.

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LA Grand Juries Are Refusing to Indict ICE Protestors [View all] LetMyPeopleVote Jul 24 OP

I am so pleased to read that some grand juries are refusing to indict Ice protestors. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 24 #1

Agree CP popsdenver Jul 24 #20

This is how we get the most impact in the justice system. slightlv Jul 24 #39

Great news!! The people can stop Trump! Jim__ Jul 24 #2

The next effort will be creating tribunals. SSJVegeta Jul 24 #3

Tribunals. Like the one they are going to put johnnyfins Jul 24 #4

i like the ones we'll have barbtries Jul 24 #10

Indeed. Hornedfrog2000 Jul 24 #24

not a supporter of the death penalty, barbtries Jul 24 #25

I think a slow fade away JustAnotherGen Jul 24 #28

or saddam coming up from his hidey hole NJCher Jul 24 #41

I know folks are laughing at his cankles JustAnotherGen Jul 25 #46

Good! SheltieLover Jul 24 #5

Righteous. Solly Mack Jul 24 #6

Grand Jury gfarber Jul 24 #7

Welcome to DU! More, please! ancianita Jul 24 #14

Wait, they are trying to deny justice to people who are not Trrumpers. That is a no no no. No. twodogsbarking Jul 24 #8

I would put it a little differently.😉 ShazzieB Jul 24 #17

Thanks for reading it. I meant to say "deny" instead of "do". I srewed up. Mea culpa. twodogsbarking Jul 24 #21

Aww, no apologies needed! ShazzieB Jul 24 #37

so, you've got barbtries Jul 24 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author ShazzieB Jul 24 #18

Well stated! ShazzieB Jul 24 #19

Now, that's what I call a "GRAND" jury. Bravo. Ping Tung Jul 24 #11

This is why we need regular people to answer their jury duty summons! questionseverything Jul 24 #12

What is "no billing"? swong19104 Jul 24 #13

It takes three seconds to find on Google's DeepMind AI: ancianita Jul 24 #15

Thanks for asking. Nittersing Jul 24 #23

but... but... I thought they could easily indict a ham sandwich nuxvomica Jul 24 #16

Jury nullification SCantiGOP Jul 24 #22

And don't forget, in more recent times, slightlv Jul 24 #40

Good! JustAnotherGen Jul 24 #26

Is it "jury nullification" or a righteous reaction to "trumped up" charges? Midnight Writer Jul 24 #27

Jury nullification! We need more of this! ck4829 Jul 24 #29

Excellent republianmushroom Jul 24 #30

Ikr, once in a while, regular people win! questionseverything Jul 24 #32

Yup and it does ones heart good when it happens republianmushroom Jul 24 #33

Does this mean that Trump can get his NoBill prize? usonian Jul 24 #31

that had me NJCher Jul 24 #42

I live for word play. usonian Jul 25 #44

I don't think this is nullification, that happens if jurors believe the defendant technically broke the law questionseverything Jul 24 #34

I have never bought the canard that a grand jury would indict a ham sandwich. TomSlick Jul 24 #35

Can anyone here look at that photo BidenRocks Jul 24 #36

Excellent proud patriot Jul 24 #38

Good! The real criminals are ICE and the Trump administration! Initech Jul 24 #43

What does "no-bill" mean? Grumpy Old Guy Jul 25 #45

No indictment, so they walk hatrack Jul 25 #48

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