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WhiskeyGrinder

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14. "it's better than letting people suffer on street as we do now."

Fri Jul 25, 2025, 08:19 AM

Jul 25

I don't know that making people suffer by taking away the last shred of their own autonomy by forcing them into carceral treatment is "better."

Plus, I don’t think anyone is saying they have to be involuntarily institutionalized.

People say it all the time and it is policy in many places, and is exactly what this EO does by criminalizing homelessness. Putting someone in prison is an involuntary institutionalization.

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Trump order pushes forcible hospitalization of homeless people [View all] dalton99a Jul 24 OP

Didn't Reagan kick homeless out of hospitals and treatment? I don't trust trumpsters to treat Silent Type Jul 24 #1

. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 24 #2

Yeah, well they aren't getting treatment now or it's failing. Again don't trust trump, but 60% of homeless Silent Type Jul 24 #4

Those who are capable of holding employment will be hired out as slave labor... regnaD kciN Jul 24 #5

So, what's your solution to help homeless that actually has a chance of being enacted? Silent Type Jul 24 #7

Housing first. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 25 #15

"it's better than letting people suffer on street as we do now." WhiskeyGrinder Jul 25 #14

Yes. He dumped them onto the streets in Chicago, etc kerry-is-my-prez Jul 25 #13

If i remember correctly it was never often followed up with good services etc. electric_blue68 Jul 25 #39

It was the ACLU that led this in the Supreme Court Melon Jul 25 #43

First time I agree with Dump Bluesaph Jul 25 #44

Or they could just build some fucking housing leftstreet Jul 24 #3

Where are they going to find these hospitals willing to LisaL Jul 24 #6

So, 19th century asylums but this time it's for PROFIT BABY. Why should prisons Maru Kitteh Jul 24 #8

+1. The 'hospitals' will be built and run by private prison companies dalton99a Jul 24 #9

One more way to break the bank. Nt lostnfound Jul 24 #10

Another evil AF executive order. Initech Jul 25 #11

I support this if it gets mentally ill homeless off the street Melon Jul 25 #12

Most people living w Mental Illness Are Non Violent electric_blue68 Jul 25 #34

Right. But the order allocates federal funding to direct addicts to treatment centers Melon Jul 25 #35

It's how it will be done that concerns me... electric_blue68 Jul 25 #37

Next level of Alligator Alcatraz IzzaNuDay Jul 25 #16

Exactly! peggysue2 Jul 25 #22

He's bringing a nation to heel, starting with the "low/hanging fruit." Heidi Jul 25 #23

Isn't he already destroying healthcare access and hospital systems... ananda Jul 25 #17

I know plenty of people with Bettie Jul 25 #18

Also, this would create more homeless people who Trump.. ananda Jul 25 #19

So getting people into treatment ho need it is a bad thing? This finally allocates federal funding to expand Melon Jul 25 #36

Where are hospitals going to get the space? Bettie Jul 25 #40

It's not about the admin to me if the alternative Melon Jul 25 #41

Like they're only rounding up criminals Bettie Jul 25 #45

That can happen. It happened back when we had mental hospitals. Melon Jul 25 #46

What facilities are they planning to use? MineralMan Jul 25 #20

These people are simply incapable of connecting dots. travelingthrulife Jul 25 #21

By "hospitals," he no doubt means warehouses run by contractors. Heidi Jul 25 #24

If he gets his way, I hope people understand this will include innocent kids. Passages Jul 25 #25

Call this what it is, imprisonment indusurb Jul 25 #26

+1. Imprisonment and burial dalton99a Jul 25 #27

And aslo Democrats, LGBT+, whoever they say is mentally ill obamanut2012 Jul 25 #28

First stop to concentration camps bucolic_frolic Jul 25 #29

Has any other country solved this problem. multigraincracker Jul 25 #30

Finland has made a good deal of progress with its housing first approach, and housing first combined with wraparound WhiskeyGrinder Jul 25 #32

Greece closed their mental hospitals and the result Melon Jul 25 #42

"Hospitals" 😂😂😂 IrishAfricanAmerican Jul 25 #31

Work camps orangecrush Jul 25 #33

Isn't Trump the guy EndlessWire Jul 25 #38