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electric_blue68

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37. It's how it will be done that concerns me...

Fri Jul 25, 2025, 06:48 PM

Jul 25

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I'm for violent people being off the streets w or w/o mental illness! (duh)

Now if they genuinely put them in real hospitals...and they're violent - so, rhen what; more security? Drugged up into a harmless stupored haze, a sep wing; I guess that's sort of better.
AND what is really needed are freaking better psychotropics; with minimal side-effects! This is stuff I've read about off & on. (I've always read about a lot of different subjects) Some people won't take them, or stop bc the side effects are so nasty.

Housing with full on-site services whether for MI clients alone, or with co-something (I forgot the term) ie: drugs; is usually the best result for most challenging clients. Maaaaybe the worst need a separate jail sector within a jail/prison- but genuinely good staffing, serious but if at all possible fair protocols, and medications to diminish their aviolent actions. [there by the *grace of God, go you and I, as it is said] *luck, good genes, good circumstances, etc.

I lived on a mostly middle class block in Brooklyn with a dedicated drug-rehab housing. It was women for some years, then men for the next several. Then I moved. Never had a problem.

As for NYC subways. Been riding steadily for about 58 yrs. Haven't been on in a year or so, but planning to go certain places soonish. The stats are are still low crime rates even if some rise.

I'm not scared. I do keep an eye out. Shoot, I was riding the subway F/T in the ?late 80'a or so, when The NY Post "declared" that crime was everywhere(!!!) underground. 😑🙄

I drew a sarcastic illustration w subway riders waiting on a platform, and a bunch of criminals, forearms hands clutching knives reaching for a "take a number" device like in a supermarket deli.
And I was riding late at night, too, at times. No problem. At night you ride in the conductors car. 👍

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Trump order pushes forcible hospitalization of homeless people [View all] dalton99a Jul 24 OP

Didn't Reagan kick homeless out of hospitals and treatment? I don't trust trumpsters to treat Silent Type Jul 24 #1

. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 24 #2

Yeah, well they aren't getting treatment now or it's failing. Again don't trust trump, but 60% of homeless Silent Type Jul 24 #4

Those who are capable of holding employment will be hired out as slave labor... regnaD kciN Jul 24 #5

So, what's your solution to help homeless that actually has a chance of being enacted? Silent Type Jul 24 #7

Housing first. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 25 #15

"it's better than letting people suffer on street as we do now." WhiskeyGrinder Jul 25 #14

Yes. He dumped them onto the streets in Chicago, etc kerry-is-my-prez Jul 25 #13

If i remember correctly it was never often followed up with good services etc. electric_blue68 Jul 25 #39

It was the ACLU that led this in the Supreme Court Melon Jul 25 #43

First time I agree with Dump Bluesaph Jul 25 #44

Or they could just build some fucking housing leftstreet Jul 24 #3

Where are they going to find these hospitals willing to LisaL Jul 24 #6

So, 19th century asylums but this time it's for PROFIT BABY. Why should prisons Maru Kitteh Jul 24 #8

+1. The 'hospitals' will be built and run by private prison companies dalton99a Jul 24 #9

One more way to break the bank. Nt lostnfound Jul 24 #10

Another evil AF executive order. Initech Jul 25 #11

I support this if it gets mentally ill homeless off the street Melon Jul 25 #12

Most people living w Mental Illness Are Non Violent electric_blue68 Jul 25 #34

Right. But the order allocates federal funding to direct addicts to treatment centers Melon Jul 25 #35

It's how it will be done that concerns me... electric_blue68 Jul 25 #37

Next level of Alligator Alcatraz IzzaNuDay Jul 25 #16

Exactly! peggysue2 Jul 25 #22

He's bringing a nation to heel, starting with the "low/hanging fruit." Heidi Jul 25 #23

Isn't he already destroying healthcare access and hospital systems... ananda Jul 25 #17

I know plenty of people with Bettie Jul 25 #18

Also, this would create more homeless people who Trump.. ananda Jul 25 #19

So getting people into treatment ho need it is a bad thing? This finally allocates federal funding to expand Melon Jul 25 #36

Where are hospitals going to get the space? Bettie Jul 25 #40

It's not about the admin to me if the alternative Melon Jul 25 #41

Like they're only rounding up criminals Bettie Jul 25 #45

That can happen. It happened back when we had mental hospitals. Melon Jul 25 #46

What facilities are they planning to use? MineralMan Jul 25 #20

These people are simply incapable of connecting dots. travelingthrulife Jul 25 #21

By "hospitals," he no doubt means warehouses run by contractors. Heidi Jul 25 #24

If he gets his way, I hope people understand this will include innocent kids. Passages Jul 25 #25

Call this what it is, imprisonment indusurb Jul 25 #26

+1. Imprisonment and burial dalton99a Jul 25 #27

And aslo Democrats, LGBT+, whoever they say is mentally ill obamanut2012 Jul 25 #28

First stop to concentration camps bucolic_frolic Jul 25 #29

Has any other country solved this problem. multigraincracker Jul 25 #30

Finland has made a good deal of progress with its housing first approach, and housing first combined with wraparound WhiskeyGrinder Jul 25 #32

Greece closed their mental hospitals and the result Melon Jul 25 #42

"Hospitals" 😂😂😂 IrishAfricanAmerican Jul 25 #31

Work camps orangecrush Jul 25 #33

Isn't Trump the guy EndlessWire Jul 25 #38