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(23,592 posts) Sat Jul 26, 2025, 02:15 PM Jul 26

Beto O'Rourke has advice for Dems. What do you think of it? [View all]

He was just interviewed on MSNBC. He said that Dems should throw the first punch and throw it harder." This was in reference to the appalling and dangerous plan by R's in TX to redistrict. He thinks the Dems in CA and NY should beat them to the punch. Before the TX legislature can act, he thinks that these states, controlled by Dems, should act to redistrict. If they did, TX's plan would be moot anyway.

He did acknowledge that this would be anything but easy, and would be far outside the comfort zone of most Dems. He said that the time for worrying about being right instead of being in power has passed. There are roadblocks, but we all know that if those roadblocks existed for R's they wouldn't even blink before plowing ahead.

As a Californian, in a state where the citizens have voted for Democratic leadership overwhelmingly, I would like to see my elected leaders fight fire with fire for once.

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Beto O'Rourke has advice for Dems. What do you think of it? [View all] senseandsensibility Jul 26 OP

I couldn't agree more FoxNewsSucks Jul 26 #1

Yup senseandsensibility Jul 26 #2

Here's Governor Newsom with Brian Tyler Cohen discussing doing this in California BComplex Jul 26 #32

I hope he can! Problem is down thread states, he is bound by the state constitution to the current districts. LeftInTX Jul 27 #58

Can we win a wave of redistricting that washes over many blue and purple states? bucolic_frolic Jul 26 #3

This! 👆👆👆👆👆👆 SheltieLover Jul 26 #27

Every red state is already gerrymandered to the max Bluetus Jul 26 #35

Yes! I say go for it. What have we got to lose? Honor? What's that got us so far? Time to start outRepublicaning KPN Jul 27 #51

If NY and CA customerserviceguy Jul 26 #4

Well, Texas is going to Bettie Jul 26 #7

I agree that hoping R states follow the rules and senseandsensibility Jul 26 #10

I think... Woodycall Jul 26 #25

Yes senseandsensibility Jul 26 #26

And very well said. nt Bobstandard Jul 27 #53

Absolutely! SheltieLover Jul 26 #30

Texas doesn't have any rules to follow. CA and NY do. LeftInTX Jul 27 #59

Yup Jilly_in_VA Jul 26 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author KPN Jul 27 #52

Are they not already doing that? In many red if not most red states anyway? What have we got to lose? KPN Jul 27 #54

It's long past the time for Democrats to do this. lees1975 Jul 26 #5

Yes, I agree with this Bettie Jul 26 #6

I heard the interview and agree with him. GoodRaisin Jul 26 #8

Off topic, but I love your username! senseandsensibility Jul 26 #12

TY GoodRaisin Jul 26 #13

Yes yes and yes and Gov. Newsome agrees Tribetime Jul 26 #9

That's good news about Newsom senseandsensibility Jul 26 #11

I don't think it'd be easy in CA ITAL Jul 26 #14

If there is any way to get this on the ballot to change it senseandsensibility Jul 26 #15

They'd have to call a special election madville Jul 26 #33

Well, a corresponding ballot measure ITAL Jul 26 #34

Do you think that would stop a Republican Governor in a red State with Rs in control of both chambers? KPN Jul 27 #50

They could put a competing ballot measure on ITAL Jul 27 #56

Texas has tried to pass this, but the bills die. The state does not allow statewide citizen petitions. LeftInTX Jul 27 #57

Just FYI... WarGamer Jul 26 #16

NY tried to create districts that favored Dems MadameButterfly Jul 26 #17

Yes, how quickly we forget. At the same time, the very idea of Dems outRepublicaning the Republicans in this or any KPN Jul 27 #46

yeah, but see post #16 MadameButterfly Jul 28 #60

He's right. Democrats are always in a defensive/reactive mode dalton99a Jul 26 #18

Recommended. H2O Man Jul 26 #19

This made me smile, especially the "faster and harder" part. We are probably all there in our own way. The Democratic KPN Jul 27 #47

NJ Could do it JustAnotherGen Jul 26 #20

Wow. Hadn't heard that. senseandsensibility Jul 26 #21

We have a trifecta JustAnotherGen Jul 27 #45

i agree 100% moonshinegnomie Jul 26 #22

Gerrymandering example Exp Jul 26 #23

It's way overdue. orangecrush Jul 26 #24

YES! YES! YES! Long past time. nt Phoenix61 Jul 26 #28

Definitely overdue - the repugs in TX own the ground game and he knows it TBF Jul 26 #29

He's taking ForgedCrank Jul 26 #31

Here's an excellent video of Beto laying it out for us: Ars Longa Jul 26 #36

If he's saying, when they go low, BE there at the door, waiting for em B.See Jul 26 #38

Yes! Exactly! Ars Longa Jul 26 #39

NY tried to do it and California isn't done directly by democrats JI7 Jul 26 #40

Oh darn. Did you really have to ruin a good vibe with reality? KPN Jul 27 #49

all I know is Skittles Jul 26 #41

Yes. They also need to start punching first and hard. KPN Jul 27 #48

California and New York both use commissions consisting of people from both major parties and minor ones. summer_in_TX Jul 27 #42

I think that Texas Republicans may "dummymander" and screw themselves, Jack Valentino Jul 27 #43

Here's the video of Beto's message on MSNBC: Rhiannon12866 Jul 27 #44

I agree. BlueKota Jul 27 #55

If it's "Wake up and fight", then I'm for it Iggo Jul 28 #61

Agreed. Unless there is a national agreement among states to use fair commissions, Dems must not disarm. themaguffin Jul 28 #62