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hlthe2b

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1. Men teach their own sons (by example) to ignore women over a certain age, excepting their own mothers (usually)...

Tue Jul 29, 2025, 03:17 PM

Jul 29

Thus, the obsession with looking young--cosmetic procedures-- among women celebrities and adopted by their fans and other insecure women.. Yet, when you look at comments in male-dominated online publications, it is clear that the contempt extends to these women as well.

I might add that not all these men are a-hole conservatives. There seems to be a subconscious pattern.

Even during our most progressive period, the absence of a woman president (despite far more conservative countries having had one or more) and a representative percentage of women in Congress and other power centers, including business, has only continued, enabled, and reinforced this pattern.

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Jamie Lee Curtis says there has been a "genocide of a generation of women by the cosmeceutical industrial complex" [View all] Just_Vote_Dem Jul 29 OP

Men teach their own sons (by example) to ignore women over a certain age, excepting their own mothers (usually)... hlthe2b Jul 29 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jul 29 #32

That is so true. I hate being invisible. LisaM Jul 29 #36

I love being invisible. Demobrat Jul 29 #42

Every time I say it, someone says how great it is. That bothers me LisaM Jul 29 #47

You're right Lisa. It sucks when we share a vulnerability, something which Maru Kitteh Jul 29 #59

same Skittles Jul 29 #53

It took me a while until I realised that being invisible GenThePerservering Jul 29 #55

I like being invisible but sometimes I still get noticed and I get upset. kimbutgar Jul 29 #58

Fortunately the Internet is a cornucopia of women supporting each other TheProle Jul 29 #40

Yes, right. NT GenThePerservering Jul 29 #56

I have never had any kind of cosmetic surgery Jilly_in_VA Jul 29 #2

Ha! You sound exactly like me! senseandsensibility Jul 29 #3

My Wife Doesn't Either ProfessorGAC Jul 29 #9

Me too! My DH and my boys love me the way I am Bettie Jul 29 #15

that's something I learned a long time ago Skittles Jul 29 #29

I'm still coming to terms with aging Bettie Jul 29 #31

One thing about getting older is less interest in what other people think Ritabert Jul 29 #4

I have a dear friend I've known almost 50 years. She and her sister were the two most attractive women Deuxcents Jul 29 #5

Wow that's a shame. Ritabert Jul 29 #6

It really is. The push to look the way the newest trend is has been a big marketing blow to many people Deuxcents Jul 29 #10

And permanent eyeliner and lip liner are a real mistake Ritabert Jul 29 #37

The comments I read regarding women not coloring their hair anymore is so frustrating and sad oregonjen Jul 29 #7

That's terrible that support groups are needed senseandsensibility Jul 29 #8

Let's apply positives, let's call women distinguished. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 29 #13

I've always had very dark hair Bettie Jul 29 #16

I think mid stage looks so cool! oregonjen Jul 29 #18

I occasionally use a temporary color Bettie Jul 29 #21

I gave it up due to maintenance on the roots Ritabert Jul 29 #38

Me too Unwind Your Mind Jul 29 #46

Wow. You lucked out. Ritabert Jul 30 #63

I stopped coloring my hair during Covid Mossfern Jul 29 #45

Same here. My hairdresser was terrific & I went to her for about 35 years. Great auburn color... Hekate Jul 30 #61

About the eye thing ..... Mossfern Jul 30 #62

I stopped dying my hair in 2008, I thought if men can let their hair become gray MagickMuffin Jul 29 #22

Sometimes, I'm tempted to put "low lights" in my silver hair WhiteTara Jul 29 #34

I have the opposite problem BigmanPigman Jul 29 #43

Is it me? SocialDemocrat61 Jul 29 #11

Killing the spirit, at least partially, on such a large scale is, at least partially, a genocide of sorts. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 29 #14

The pressure to be very thin is also Bettie Jul 29 #25

Very true SocialDemocrat61 Jul 29 #51

don't care for the word genocide here Skittles Jul 29 #12

To pushback a bit, it's the societal pressure that women face to look as young as possible oregonjen Jul 29 #17

well I guess that pressure never worked on me and many others Skittles Jul 29 #20

It's everywhere in the media oregonjen Jul 29 #23

no one says you have to pay attention to it Skittles Jul 29 #26

Of course, you're right, I'm trying to teach my kids that. oregonjen Jul 29 #28

EXCELLENT Skittles Jul 29 #30

Probably because it's the wrong word. maxsolomon Jul 29 #49

Joan Rivers died during surgery Mossfern Jul 29 #52

Laryngoscopy I see maxsolomon Jul 29 #60

Women (and men) for as long as there have been women and men have obsessed over physical appearance ToxMarz Jul 29 #19

She says she means it's "disfigurement" -- in that case she should bloody well say so Hekate Jul 29 #24

There are procedures that are less invasive that may be better. To me, many woman celebs who get them look maybe twodogsbarking Jul 29 #27

There is a saying: you can either look old or look weird. Still I believe jrthin Jul 29 #33

What will be biologically possible in the future Johonny Jul 29 #35

Stealing "cosmeceutical industrial complex". I have long pointed out niyad Jul 29 #39

Recommended. H2O Man Jul 29 #41

I wore makeup occasionally in a very brief period as a new lawyer - Ms. Toad Jul 29 #44

I've thought Jamie Lee Curtis was beautiful... appmanga Jul 29 #48

I disagree with the use of the word Luciferous Jul 29 #50

I had to quit coloring my hair about 5yrs ago. I developed a very bad allergic Raine Jul 29 #54

I've had one plastic surgery procedure and I'd do it again in a heartbeat. 3catwoman3 Jul 29 #57