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EdmondDantes_

(1,272 posts)
7. Israel long since went past defending themselves
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 02:24 PM
Jul 2025

And given the IDF keeps killing people milling for aid, they don't get credit for delivering a tiny amount of aid and blocking other aid.

But if you're arguing that they are merely committing crimes against humanity or war crimes and not technically genocide, that's missing the forest for the trees. If you're claiming it's merely defending their country, that's a whole different problem of being unwilling to see reality.

But for the record, this is the definition of genocide taken from the U . Holocaust museum from the U.N. https://www.ushmm.org/genocide-prevention/learn-about-genocide-and-other-mass-atrocities/definitions

"Genocide is defined as any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group.

Killing members of the group.

Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group.

Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.

Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group.

Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."

Please explain how the first 4 aren't being done. Destroying hospitals and causing mass starvation will absolutely cause births to not happen.

It's amazing JustAnotherGen Jul 2025 #1
so is accusing Israel of genocide in Gaza "Antisemitism"? LymphocyteLover Jul 2025 #2
to some, yes. Only total loyalty to Israel is accepted. WhiteTara Jul 2025 #4
Genocide claims require specific intent, dolus specialis. Mosby Jul 2025 #5
Israel long since went past defending themselves EdmondDantes_ Jul 2025 #7
So starving only SOME Palestinians - not most - is proof of no genocidal intent? AloeVera Jul 2025 #10
Reply Mosby Jul 2025 #21
I skimmed thru all that. Geez. Why do I bother???? AloeVera Jul 2025 #24
I am not going through this ridiculous post in its entirety, but I can't resist this one: Beastly Boy Jul 2025 #25
If you keep dropping a hot skillet on your toe, yes EdmondDantes_ Jul 2025 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 2025 #29
Why ignore the Revised Charter of 2017? AloeVera Jul 2025 #30
That's not the definition of an occupying power. lapucelle Jul 2025 #32
And as long as we're discussing definitions, what does "No one is going to rid Israel of Jews" mean? lapucelle Jul 2025 #33
And as for "quibbling" over definitions... lapucelle Jul 2025 #36
No, starvation in times of war is not in itself proof of genocidal intent. Beastly Boy Jul 2025 #22
As in the case of defining genocide itself, intent is key. Beastly Boy Jul 2025 #6
As Jon Stewart recently put it LymphocyteLover Jul 2025 #16
What a coincidence. I was just watching that when I read your post vanessa_ca Jul 2025 #19
Did anything I posted remind you of being told to shut up? Beastly Boy Jul 2025 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 2025 #8
Thank goodness they're not also jailed, deported, fired from faculty, stripped of degrees and even green cards AloeVera Jul 2025 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 2025 #34
Here's what the judge had to say: lapucelle Jul 2025 #37
Post removed Post removed Jul 2025 #38
The judge saw it differently. lapucelle Jul 2025 #40
excluded by the univ administration? LymphocyteLover Jul 2025 #46
Yes. The court ruled that in allowing Jewish students to be denied services available to other students, UCLA lapucelle Jul 2025 #49
Thanks! LymphocyteLover Jul 2025 #52
I read the article from the Daily Bruin and the case is quite complex. I didn't see specific examples of what LymphocyteLover Jul 2025 #94
Jewish students were denied access to parts of the campus. lapucelle Jul 2025 #95
All Federal grants to UCLA now suspended LymphocyteLover Aug 2025 #107
I blame both the Trump administration and the students who engaged in anti-Semitism. lapucelle Aug 2025 #108
OK, thanks for your thoughtful response. Still, it's clear the whole uproar about these protests greatly aided tRump and LymphocyteLover Aug 2025 #109
It was the anti-Semitism extant at the UCLA protests that greatly aided Trump lapucelle Aug 2025 #110
And it wasn't a brief that I quoted. It was a federal judge's ruling. N/T lapucelle Jul 2025 #96
It's no big deal "only having to go AROUND"? sarisataka Jul 2025 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 2025 #43
There's a trial balloon for an upcoming inversion in there as well. lapucelle Jul 2025 #47
This! mcar Jul 2025 #64
Wow, well said. sheshe2 Jul 2025 #68
Except JustAnotherGen Jul 2025 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author AloeVera Jul 2025 #69
I can't imagine saying... lapucelle Jul 2025 #41
Boom! JustAnotherGen Jul 2025 #61
Right? mcar Jul 2025 #65
It's mind boggling JustAnotherGen Jul 2025 #81
Blaming every Jewish person for what Israel is doing is antisemitic. yardwork Jul 2025 #11
I agree mostly, with some questions thought crime Jul 2025 #14
Blaming the Israeli government is not antisemitic. yardwork Jul 2025 #15
Because Isreal is starving two million people in front of our eyes 👀 questionseverything Jul 2025 #26
It is not deniable or excusable. yardwork Jul 2025 #28
Genocide at our southern border? Some people are close to saying so. thought crime Jul 2025 #39
What we are seeing quite a bit of is the terms "Israel", "Zionist" and "Jewish" being used synonymously sarisataka Jul 2025 #18
Yes. Exactly. yardwork Jul 2025 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 2025 #3
I know where they're getting their information. yardwork Jul 2025 #12
do you have any specific examples of that? LymphocyteLover Jul 2025 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 2025 #20
Thanks. 2023! Yikes. LymphocyteLover Jul 2025 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 2025 #48
But Israel... sarisataka Jul 2025 #9
Here is a thoughtful explanation about the cycle of anti_Semitism OilemFirchen Jul 2025 #13
There certainly is genocide enablement iemanja Jul 2025 #44
Yes. Those celebrations in NYC on October 8, 2023 were disgusting. lapucelle Jul 2025 #50
I was thinking of these lives iemanja Jul 2025 #51
... lapucelle Jul 2025 #53
denial iemanja Jul 2025 #54
I'm not in denial about Hamas's propaganda machine or the extremist groups that stoke it. lapucelle Jul 2025 #56
Those freedom fighters have, perhaps, the greatest propaganda machine in history. nt LexVegas Jul 2025 #57
It's not Hamas, it's international food security experts iemanja Jul 2025 #62
"the country you defend more than your own" lapucelle Jul 2025 #63
You are absolutely correct Jenanja Avalon Sparks Jul 2025 #75
It's a transparent ploy iemanja Jul 2025 #78
100% agree! Avalon Sparks Jul 2025 #79
So he's in Italy? JustAnotherGen Jul 2025 #84
Indeed he is in Italy being treated. lapucelle Jul 2025 #86
Advocating that the government of Israel should stop killing and starving civilians equals soft antisemitism? LudwigPastorius Jul 2025 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 2025 #58
Sure, it's completely and utterly unrelated to anything else EdmondDantes_ Jul 2025 #67
"that silly term"...there it is. nt LexVegas Jul 2025 #70
Antisemitism is now a "silly term" sarisataka Jul 2025 #72
Remember, there is no antisemitism on the left. nt LexVegas Jul 2025 #74
Yes it's a silly term EdmondDantes_ Jul 2025 #73
Actually JustAnotherGen Jul 2025 #82
That's still not an evidence based or philosophy based defense of Holocaust inversion as a thing EdmondDantes_ Jul 2025 #85
Just don't include Slavery in the Equation JustAnotherGen Jul 2025 #89
Thanks for the clarification. I missed the reference to slavery. thought crime Aug 2025 #103
I didn't put the card on the table JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #106
Just saying JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #105
This message was self-deleted by its author Avalon Sparks Jul 2025 #76
Antisemitism is a "silly term?" mcar Jul 2025 #87
no Holocaust inversion is a silly term EdmondDantes_ Jul 2025 #90
Ever wondered why Israel has had impunity for any and all its crimes? AloeVera Jul 2025 #71
That's your choice Mossfern Jul 2025 #77
Now that seventeen more countries plus the European Union and Arab League lapucelle Jul 2025 #59
Finally! mcar Jul 2025 #66
Mahlao, lapucelle.. You are such a Cha Jul 2025 #80
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 2025 #101
I'd condemn anyone who's deliberately murdered tens of thousands of civilians Orrex Jul 2025 #83
Spare me. ShadesOfBlue Jul 2025 #88
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 2025 #91
LOL That's what I thought too! n/t Just_Vote_Dem Jul 2025 #92
Notice the number of posts ... Mossfern Jul 2025 #93
And the length of membership... lapucelle Jul 2025 #97
Sleeping beauty, eh? Hekate Jul 2025 #98
... lapucelle Jul 2025 #102
That's a question that remains to be seen. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2025 #100
Hopefully that was sarcasm. thought crime Aug 2025 #104
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Aug 2025 #111
Pox on Both Hamas and Baby Yahoo. Defending and rationalizing any of this is beyond Insane msfiddlestix Jul 2025 #99
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