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EdmondDantes_

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90. Citation needed

Mon Aug 4, 2025, 04:55 PM

Aug 4

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/latest-fla-recount-yields-more-confusion/

This article talking about the Herald's findings shows a best case scenario Gore might have won by a full state recount using the most lenient standard. Hardly winning by 880,000 votes. Given the total votes in Florida were 5,963,070 votes, your 880,000 number would have been nearly 15% of the total vote. I think you're misremembering things.

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