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Crunchy Frog

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67. Yeah, I kind of think that the country going fascist and our party leaders bowing down to it is kind of important.

Thu Sep 18, 2025, 05:18 PM

Sep 18

And it will absolutely have repercussions far beyond a simple "political stunt".

I support people's right to be apathetic about politics, but don't really expect to see it on a political discussion board.

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Democratic leaders will support resolution honoring Charlie Kirk [View all] Celerity Sep 18 OP

And they wonder why people are complaining that the Democratic Party isn't taking a hard enough stand against fascism. CrispyQ Sep 18 #1

BS! It means that our party leaders know how to avoid traps. QueerDuck Sep 18 #20

In that case, we've been avoiding traps since Reagan & here the fuck we are. CrispyQ Sep 18 #37

Well, anyway. Try not to worry too much. It's only as important as you let it become. QueerDuck Sep 18 #41

Well I happen to think this does matter. -nt CrispyQ Sep 18 #45

Worrying won't change anything. So the energy spent doing that could be put to better use, yes? QueerDuck Sep 18 #65

Your time management & life advice isn't wanted or needed. Bye. -nt CrispyQ Sep 18 #91

Well... It remains unclear how worry will solve anything. QueerDuck Sep 18 #94

Yeah, I kind of think that the country going fascist and our party leaders bowing down to it is kind of important. Crunchy Frog Sep 18 #67

Oh. I see. Are you suggesting that I do not belong here? QueerDuck Sep 18 #79

I'm putting you on ignore now so that we won't have to interact with each other. Crunchy Frog Sep 18 #85

If someone "puts on ignore" everyone they disagree with, then what's the point? QueerDuck Sep 18 #88

"Move on. Let it go." MrsCheaplaugh Sep 19 #100

Sorry. That's an absurd analogy. The two things do not compare. QueerDuck Sep 19 #105

our ideals have never mattered when it comes to election cycles... agingdem Sep 19 #102

I disagree Samael13 Sep 19 #98

They have to do this. Fortunately many who understand politics get this. Move on. themaguffin Sep 18 #47

They should be able to figure out how to condemn political violence without honoring a GD bigot. -nt CrispyQ Sep 18 #49

Charlie Kirk, White Supremacist, Dead at 31 Passages Sep 18 #2

"What else can our Congress leaders DOOOOOO? We're out of pooowwwer!" Scrivener7 Sep 18 #3

The troll who called for Biden to be executed dalton99a Sep 18 #4

Is this satire? leftstreet Sep 18 #5

Profiles in courage sop Sep 18 #6

The best way to resist is to cooperate dalton99a Sep 18 #9

I think the right word might be Bettie Sep 18 #11

Bend over sounds more accurate durablend Sep 18 #36

Yeah, that works too Bettie Sep 18 #46

Or: We must destroy the constitution to save it. Dave Bowman Sep 18 #80

We need a chicken or a scardy-cat emoji. Vogon_Glory Sep 18 #77

Which members of congress Keepthesoulalive Sep 18 #7

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) said at the Thursday morning meeting that his leadership team will vote Celerity Sep 18 #59

If they vote for it Keepthesoulalive Sep 18 #62

We'll have the complete vote list when they vote tomorrow. I'll post it then, unless (very possible) some beat me to it Celerity Sep 18 #63

here are the actual votes today (95 Dems ended up voting for it) Celerity Sep 19 #109

Cowardice Keepthesoulalive Sep 19 #110

This is infuriating. If he HAD to let the Repuds pass it, Vogon_Glory Sep 18 #76

Kirk called for President Biden to be slaughtered Arazi Sep 18 #8

Have there been Resolutions honoring any or all victims of gun violence? UTUSN Sep 18 #10

House Democrats are circulating a measure denouncing political violence ahead of an expected Friday vote on a resolution Celerity Sep 18 #14

Good. Counteract and see if the GOP signs on. LeftInTX Sep 18 #74

House Republicans, led by Speaker Mike Johnson, continue to block the installation of a commemorative plaque sop Sep 18 #31

Theyre getting sued for it, too. And theyre gonna lose that suit Volaris Sep 18 #34

I would skip the vote newdeal2 Sep 18 #12

They now consider the Constitution just some unfortunate collateral damage. Ping Tung Sep 18 #13

Ooooh! The boogymen in the closed door basement! MorbidButterflyTat Sep 18 #15

Senator Murphy has been warning for a long time that this is a 5-alarm fire. CrispyQ Sep 18 #43

Fuck, fuck, fuckity fuck, Ferrets are Cool Sep 18 #16

Yes let's conflate Charlie Kreist and his myriad bigotries with a wish to condemn political violence. LuvLoogie Sep 18 #17

It is a House resolution, so Schumer is not involved. Celerity Sep 18 #19

A model ?? Passages Sep 18 #35

Plenty of white washing there pfitz59 Sep 18 #60

Good thing that maggots can't read. That bullshit is enough to gag a maggot to death. Autumn Sep 18 #95

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I don't know that this is a hill I'd bother to fight for. Buns_of_Fire Sep 18 #21

Every single bending of the knee to the republican framework drives the sword deeper into Dem hearts LearnedHand Sep 18 #81

I understand your point. It's just that all the debate about Kirk Buns_of_Fire Sep 18 #90

Fuck this noise, we need to let leadership know how we feel JCMach1 Sep 18 #22

Good idea. It's been a while but they're going to hear from me today. Nt ecstatic Sep 19 #104

is there any democrat who would actually do something so effing stupid as to vote for this? nt msongs Sep 18 #23

we will see the ones who do vote for it tomorrow Celerity Sep 18 #24

Apparently. Scrivener7 Sep 18 #48

The official top Dem House leadership team is Hakeem Jeffries, Katherine Clark, Pete Aguilar, Ted Lieu, and Joe Neguse Celerity Sep 18 #68

Yes. Those who are in swing districts. Those in safe districts are gonna pass on it. LeftInTX Sep 18 #75

No one should be signing on to this. No one. It's glorifying hate. It is un-American. Scrivener7 Sep 19 #96

Nope. No way. Queso Delicioso Sep 18 #25

God damn, you have to hand it to the Rethugs. Xavier Breath Sep 18 #26

The Senate apparently unanimously passed a resolution. It was toned down from the House version LeftInTX Sep 18 #82

Giving a sieg-heil to "Mein Fuhrer" can't be too far away. CentralMass Sep 18 #27

I'd never ever say that this is an attempt to blunt GOP criticism. But it is a bad move for whatever reason. marble falls Sep 18 #28

I hope some of them vote against it. BlueTsunami2018 Sep 18 #29

Why does this resolution need to be paired with honoring Charlie Kirk? Redleg Sep 18 #30

This man deserves no honor. milestogo Sep 18 #32

What about the post Charlie Kirk slander spewing from the pachyderms? GreenWave Sep 18 #33

WTF? That's like an endorsement of Charlie Kirk's feelings on trans people or women or gun rights over life. Vinca Sep 18 #38

Which 'top leaders'? DET Sep 18 #39

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) said at the Thursday morning meeting that his leadership team will vote Celerity Sep 18 #56

Then they Need to Go DET Sep 18 #70

non paywalled link Celerity Sep 18 #71

Thanks! DET Sep 18 #78

Which Democratic Leaders Said This? MineralMan Sep 18 #40

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) said at the Thursday morning meeting that his leadership team will vote Celerity Sep 18 #57

So contact them. mwmisses4289 Sep 18 #42

I think the white christian nationalists are trying to make Charlie Kirk the white MLK? walkingman Sep 18 #44

Boo. pecosbob Sep 18 #50

I've heard that some Democrats are disgusted, and some others are frightened about being targeted. Quiet Em Sep 18 #51

they did draft their own, see post 14 Celerity Sep 18 #52

That's perfect. Quiet Em Sep 18 #53

They wonder why my wallet is closed. * 617Blue Sep 18 #54

Just issue a statement I would be kacekwl Sep 18 #55

This is why there's no effective resistance movement. They're not doing enough. Duncan Grant Sep 18 #58

Is this the Onion? Emile Sep 18 #61

At the very least, they could introduce amendments to the resolution to add the Minnesota Dems that were murdered maxrandb Sep 18 #64

You must have missed it; it passed unanimously. MichMan Sep 19 #106

I strongly support Emile Sep 18 #66

Fuck this shit. La Coliniere Sep 18 #69

I'm so glad they could agree and unite over *checks notes* flvegan Sep 18 #72

Why would any Democrat "celebrate" Charlie Kirk? Condemn his killing, fine, but GoodRaisin Sep 18 #73

☝️ CentralMass Sep 18 #92

What's next? A Nobel peace prize? A national holiday? Dave Bowman Sep 18 #83

A resolution honoring a hate-mongerer. Great. travelingthrulife Sep 18 #84

Why not a resolution honoring Jimmy Kimmel and Free speech?? Ars Longa Sep 18 #86

Where's Melissa Hortman's Blue Full Moon Sep 18 #87

Passed unanimously on June 25th. You must have missed it. MichMan Sep 19 #107

Infuriating and asinine Docreed2003 Sep 18 #89

... Solly Mack Sep 18 #93

....... Hotler Sep 19 #97

Disgraceful to sign on to that given the Charlie Kirk whitewashing. They should say that they Nanjeanne Sep 19 #99

Like this? Turbineguy Sep 19 #101

SMH. This is very disappointing ecstatic Sep 19 #103

Here are the House Dems who voted Yea (95), Present (38), and Nay (58) on the HOUSE version of the Charlie Kirk bill, Celerity Sep 19 #108