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In reply to the discussion: Sen. Mark Kelly: "Nothing more un-American" [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(175,036 posts)1. When Senator Kelly sues, he will have fun using these statements from Hegseth and Bondi
If the administration intends to investigate Democratic veterans in Congress, it should prepare equal treatment for members of the White House Cabinet.
In prior remarks, Hegseth and Bondi also said troops must disobey illegal orders - MS NOW
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CNN reported last week, for example, that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, whos helped advance the partisan offensive against the Democratic veterans, delivered remarks in 2016 explaining that U.S. military personnel wont follow unlawful orders from their commander in chief and described the refusal of illegal commands as a part of the militarys ethos and standards.
CNN also found that, as Election Day 2016 drew closer, the former Fox News host told viewers that service members are not going to follow illegal orders.
That is to say, eight years ago, the future Pentagon chief delivered the same message he and Trump are now condemning.
Evidently, Hegseth is not alone. The New York Times reported:
In the legal brief, which is available online through the high courts website, Bondi wrote, Military officers are required not to carry out unlawful orders. The Florida Republican added, The military would not carry out a patently unlawful order from the president to kill nonmilitary targets. Indeed, service members are required not to do so.
Im going to go out on a limb and say that the Trump administration wont launch sedition investigations into the incumbent presidents defense secretary and attorney general, but if officials continue to pursue Democratic veterans in Congress, they should probably prepare an answer to a straightforward question: Why arent you also pursuing cases against the presidents defense secretary and attorney general?
CNN also found that, as Election Day 2016 drew closer, the former Fox News host told viewers that service members are not going to follow illegal orders.
That is to say, eight years ago, the future Pentagon chief delivered the same message he and Trump are now condemning.
Evidently, Hegseth is not alone. The New York Times reported:
Pam Bondi, the attorney general, said the same thing as the [Democratic] lawmakers last year in a friend-of-the-court brief in the Supreme Court as a lawyer for the America First Policy Institute, a conservative think tank that represented three former military leaders.
In the legal brief, which is available online through the high courts website, Bondi wrote, Military officers are required not to carry out unlawful orders. The Florida Republican added, The military would not carry out a patently unlawful order from the president to kill nonmilitary targets. Indeed, service members are required not to do so.
Im going to go out on a limb and say that the Trump administration wont launch sedition investigations into the incumbent presidents defense secretary and attorney general, but if officials continue to pursue Democratic veterans in Congress, they should probably prepare an answer to a straightforward question: Why arent you also pursuing cases against the presidents defense secretary and attorney general?
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When Senator Kelly sues, he will have fun using these statements from Hegseth and Bondi
LetMyPeopleVote
Monday
#1
Forgive me, but these are supposed to be our hard-working members of government.
calimary
Tuesday
#25
I would take Senator Kelly's military service over the service of five generations of the trump family
LetMyPeopleVote
Monday
#8
Pete Hegseth isn't fit to clean the septic tank of the the guy that cleans out Mark Kelly's septic tank.
Zelda_Orchid
Monday
#14
We can call our Senators and express our disgust. I intend to. Believe we ought
allegorical oracle
Monday
#20
oompah is making nixon + johnson look soooooooo much better. the axis of stupid, gwb, ronnie
pansypoo53219
Monday
#23
MaddowBlog-'I'm never going to back down': Mark Kelly pushes back against Hegseth's intensifying crusade
LetMyPeopleVote
Tuesday
#28