screen shot of the ICE thug proves it was not justified and was murder

[Ms. Toad]

87. If you watch the video I linked to,

it is pretty clear to me that there is contact - especially if you then go back and compare it to some of the slow motion videos from the left of the car. The third thug was (stupidly) crossing in front of the car to prevent her escape. To the extent there was any real risk from her, his choices created it. But back to the videos - the thug trying to drag her from the car car unfortunately blocks the view of the body of the shooter - but his feet appear to slide backwards on the ice (taking them out of the path of the vehicle's tires) simultaneous with the top part of his body moving forward - as would happen if he were hit by the front left corner of the car. And from the front view, he appears to be being pushed by the car, before sliding around to the driver's side.

I don't think it is serous contact. I'd be surprised if he even had a bruise at the speed she was going. There's no way she was trying to hit him. And no excuse for shooting. But it will make it harder to disprove the expected self-defense claim if Minnesota decides to charge him.