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neohippie

(1,258 posts)
45. Why would an ICE agent with known PTSD be put in that situation
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 04:14 PM
Jan 8

Why would you knowingly assign an ICE agent a weapon and put them back in a situation like this when you are aware that they suffer from PTSD. That just seems even more reckless me

Also this shooting appears to violate the DOJ's own policies stated here at this link https://www.justice.gov/jm/1-16000-department-justice-policy-use-force


1-16.200 - USE OF DEADLY FORCE AND PROHIBITED RESTRAINT TECHNIQUES
A. Deadly Force

Law enforcement and correctional officers of the Department of Justice may use deadly force only when necessary, that is, when the officer has a reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or to another person.

Deadly force may not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect.
Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle. Firearms may not be discharged from a moving vehicle except in exigent circumstances. In these situations, an officer must have an articulable reason for this use of deadly force.
If feasible and if to do so would not increase the danger to the officer or others, a verbal warning to submit to the authority of the officer shall be given prior to the use of deadly force.
Warning shots are not permitted outside of the prison context.
Officers will be trained in alternative methods and tactics for handling resisting subjects, which must be used when the use of deadly force is not authorized by this policy.
Deadly force should not be used against persons whose actions are a threat solely to themselves or property unless an individual poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others in close proximity.

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7 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Paywall. rzemanfl Jan 8 #1
He has stitches in his arm from the incident. Ritabert Jan 8 #4
So what? He was probably illegally threatening a fleeing citizen. Coventina Jan 8 #6
Stiches could have been from him breaking a car window. rzemanfl Jan 8 #8
Looks that way. Baitball Blogger Jan 8 #19
My post was just a wild assed guess. Did you get past the paywall or find this elsewhere? rzemanfl Jan 8 #25
Got it from Berengia down thread. Baitball Blogger Jan 8 #28
Thanks. n/t rzemanfl Jan 8 #29
What is it with these guys and breaking car windows? PatSeg Jan 8 #43
Cry me a fucking river. choie Jan 8 #12
I'm not justifying it. I'm saying he's going to claim PTSD. Ritabert Jan 8 #17
PTSD is not justification for murdering someone. Wiz Imp Jan 8 #36
I have severe PTSD and I never killed anybody.... Teacher of the Year Jan 8 #44
Why would an ICE agent with known PTSD be put in that situation neohippie Jan 8 #45
If this asshole has PTSD MorbidButterflyTat Jan 8 #51
Another article said he smashed the drivers back window womanofthehills Jan 8 #18
He also walked in front of a moving vehicle. live love laugh Jan 8 #46
Yeah, still alive though nt róisín_dubh Jan 8 #47
Why Should We Care? RobinA Jan 8 #23
Did you intend to reply to me? n/t rzemanfl Jan 8 #27
Here's a non-paywall version tinrobot Jan 8 #37
He's going to use his previous dragging incident by a suspect's car Ritabert Jan 8 #2
If he's that fucking fragile, he shouldn't be armed. Coventina Jan 8 #10
AMEN!!!!!! Stinky The Clown Jan 8 #42
So, too much PTSD to do the job right, then? Baitball Blogger Jan 8 #15
Yes, but it is illogical to kill a driver of a car that is in gear Ms. Toad Jan 8 #26
Right? intrepidity Jan 8 #41
So what. MorbidButterflyTat Jan 8 #53
I don't think that was defense of him. Susan Calvin Jan 8 #57
Well the defense to that argument is hamsterjill Jan 8 #58
It's behind a paywall gab13by13 Jan 8 #3
https://www.startribune.com/ice-agent-who-fatally-shot-woman-in-minneapolis-is-identified/601560214 Ritabert Jan 8 #5
I get the paywall too. I just wanted his name out there. n/t Coventina Jan 8 #7
Link without paywall Beringia Jan 8 #9
Thank you. rzemanfl Jan 8 #31
Are we supposed to feel sorry for this thug? choie Jan 8 #11
Nope. No iota of sympathy. Give him hell the rest of his miserable life!! Coventina Jan 8 #13
I sure as hell don't. USS_Dauntless Jan 8 #21
Is it possible to get four paras? Baitball Blogger Jan 8 #14
Here: Coventina Jan 8 #16
Thank you so much. Baitball Blogger Jan 8 #20
Pic from that article canetoad Jan 8 #30
Jonathan David Ross, Jonathan David Ross, Jonathan David Rice Sneederbunk Jan 8 #35
Shooter had no physical contact with vehicle. madashelltoo Jan 8 #22
The article canetoad Jan 8 #32
I think you're mixing up incidents KLK1972 Jan 8 #33
I think you are confusing two incidents, a prior one and yesterday's murder. n/t rzemanfl Jan 8 #34
The Unfortunate President said, madashelltoo Jan 8 #56
He shouldn't know another moment of comfort for the rest of his life. cab67 Jan 8 #60
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Jan 8 #24
How are they identifying this guy? Are they guessing? FakeNoose Jan 8 #38
See the Guardian article. They are REFUSING to identify him. Coventina Jan 8 #39
May as well sign off on this one... C Moon Jan 8 #63
Nonpaywall link Monsieur_Grumpe Jan 8 #40
A PSA to Mr. Ross: As you are one of Trump's flying monkeys, you probably have an idea of how incompetent his admin RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Jan 8 #48
If he has a complex about moving cars, he should not have been engaged in the act of video recording. John1956PA Jan 8 #49
Another photo of Good's ICE murderer ancianita Jan 8 #50
Maybe someone who's afraid of cars Coolgoober Jan 8 #52
He has so much PTSD that he turned into an animal MAGA hadEnuf Jan 8 #54
May he, and all his enablers, receive everything they deserve. niyad Jan 8 #55
He's a "cowboy". We all know what happens to "cowboys" when they push their chips a bit too far. paleotn Jan 8 #59
Here is the article. There is a picture too, but I don't know how to post it. mysteryowl Jan 8 #61
I think it was a rage shooting! mysteryowl Jan 8 #62
Plus being a woman she is suppose to oby his every male command. efhmc Friday #64
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