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In reply to the discussion: 'Horrifying' leak reveals ICE 'stalkers' have access to Americans' cell phone data [View all]ICE has quietly bought access to a powerful surveillance system that can monitor entire neighborhoods by sweeping up cellphone location data and tracking peoples movements over time, according to documents obtained by 404 Media.
The system, built by Penlink, consists of two tools called Webloc and Tangles. Webloc lets agents draw virtual perimeters around blocks or cities, identify phones present, and trace where devices travel over time, including likely homes and workplaces all without a warrant. Tangles adds social media monitoring, including tracking and analysis of online activity.
Civil liberties groups warn the system enables mass dragnet surveillance to help ICEs deportation crackdown. ICE argues commercially sourced data is exempt from warrant requirements, a claim critics say exploits legal loopholes and poses serious risks to privacy, free speech, and immigrant communities.
The system, built by Penlink, consists of two tools called Webloc and Tangles. Webloc lets agents draw virtual perimeters around blocks or cities, identify phones present, and trace where devices travel over time, including likely homes and workplaces all without a warrant. Tangles adds social media monitoring, including tracking and analysis of online activity.
Civil liberties groups warn the system enables mass dragnet surveillance to help ICEs deportation crackdown. ICE argues commercially sourced data is exempt from warrant requirements, a claim critics say exploits legal loopholes and poses serious risks to privacy, free speech, and immigrant communities.
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'Horrifying' leak reveals ICE 'stalkers' have access to Americans' cell phone data [View all]
cbabe
Monday
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To be fair, most of that information can be obtained by any private citizen.
Hellbound Hellhound
Monday
#2
You GROSSLY underestimate how much information is already out there and how much can be FOIA'd to the right companies.
Hellbound Hellhound
Monday
#4
Oh, I didn't miss the point; My counterpoint is that one doesn't even need the government to do it.
Hellbound Hellhound
Monday
#18
Hey man, you got a personal stake tied up in this, I don't. I understand. "You're right" if that's what you need. n/t
Hellbound Hellhound
Monday
#47
Oh, see, THAT is a drastically different animal and I agree entirely.
Hellbound Hellhound
Monday
#58
FOIA's aren't dealt with quickly & are challenged for "standing," so the FOIA argument doesn't hold for average citizens
ancianita
Monday
#74
Context search. Post history, details gleaned, timestamps, general statements, writing style, locations, profiles...
Hellbound Hellhound
Monday
#38
One of those is less than a mile down the main road that runs in front of the farm. ...
littlemissmartypants
Monday
#40
I tried to add it. But it's more complicated than I have bandwidth for at the moment. ...
littlemissmartypants
Monday
#52
Still in use though, it seems - article from June 2025. I remember from the No Kings protest...people were..
CousinIT
Monday
#24
So would it work to "go invisible" if you turn your phone totally off and put it in an RFID wallet?
woodsprite
Monday
#8
Burners are currently the best option, and the cheapest for their efficacy.
Hellbound Hellhound
Monday
#9
Solid. I've always wanted to get into HAM but money's been the limiting factor.
Hellbound Hellhound
Monday
#31
No shit? Man, I just took a look and they've changed a LOT since I looked last!
Hellbound Hellhound
Monday
#35
Agreed, with cameras everywhere, the only surefire way to not get tracked via phone is to not have a phone.
Hellbound Hellhound
Monday
#29
Well, when you integrate something into every aspect of your life without a clear understanding of how it all works...
OldBaldy1701E
Monday
#12
California launches one-click system to delete personal data from hundreds of brokers
cbabe
Monday
#15
Law enforcement has been using portable cell phone tower capture devices...stingray...since the 90's
Melon
Monday
#13
Having a cell phone is like having the Government in your pocket, and not just the U.S. gov!
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
Monday
#14
THAT was the name of the show I was thinking of, "Person of Interest".
Hellbound Hellhound
Monday
#42
You'd be surprised how much of their lives people sign away to cell phone companies in their contracts. n/t
Hellbound Hellhound
Monday
#59