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23. I mean, there's obviously degrees of power.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 10:28 AM
16 hrs ago

The Government has the ability to actually act on and enforce their will through these services. However, the average private citizen can still make life a living hell for someone (illegally) if so desired. If they want to go to the extreme, a private citizen could use readily available information freely offered on the Net to find, stalk, and harm any number of other individuals anywhere in the country. And a group of private citizens could do the same.

The person I originally responded to made the statement that "Private citizens cannot track you in this way."

I contend that they can, as I did it to myself using a proxy as cover. The government can do it BETTER and can back it up with much more force, but private citizens can certainly access similar if differently obtained information for their own purposes.

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Yep..................... Lovie777 17 hrs ago #1
To be fair, most of that information can be obtained by any private citizen. Hellbound Hellhound 17 hrs ago #2
Private citizens cannot track you this way obamanut2012 17 hrs ago #3
You GROSSLY underestimate how much information is already out there and how much can be FOIA'd to the right companies. Hellbound Hellhound 17 hrs ago #4
You missed the point about wholesale government surveillance. Kid Berwyn 16 hrs ago #17
Oh, I didn't miss the point; My counterpoint is that one doesn't even need the government to do it. Hellbound Hellhound 16 hrs ago #18
That's great, but besides the original point. Kid Berwyn 16 hrs ago #19
I mean, there's obviously degrees of power. Hellbound Hellhound 16 hrs ago #23
We are all naked to public scrutiny. RVN VET71 15 hrs ago #53
10/10, no notes. I agree with you fully. n/t Hellbound Hellhound 15 hrs ago #54
And, of course, there is the NSA data center in Utah markodochartaigh 16 hrs ago #27
Thanks, Kid. n/t yellow dahlia 5 hrs ago #70
You are misisng my point: private citzens cannot track you this way obamanut2012 15 hrs ago #44
Hey man, you got a personal stake tied up in this, I don't. I understand. "You're right" if that's what you need. n/t Hellbound Hellhound 15 hrs ago #47
Squirrell stillspkg 14 hrs ago #57
Oh, see, THAT is a drastically different animal and I agree entirely. Hellbound Hellhound 14 hrs ago #58
FOIA's aren't dealt with quickly & are challenged for "standing," so the FOIA argument doesn't hold for average citizens ancianita 4 hrs ago #74
As a for instance... Hellbound Hellhound 16 hrs ago #16
I'm not disputing what you're saying radical noodle 16 hrs ago #37
Context search. Post history, details gleaned, timestamps, general statements, writing style, locations, profiles... Hellbound Hellhound 16 hrs ago #38
So here's PURELY an example. Hellbound Hellhound 16 hrs ago #39
Wow! radical noodle 8 hrs ago #66
Tell me how YOU track a neighborhood's worth of phones like teh OP states obamanut2012 15 hrs ago #45
With a lot of hard work and research. Hellbound Hellhound 15 hrs ago #48
Do it DBoon 4 hrs ago #75
It is fairly trivial Lithos 16 hrs ago #28
It really isn't obamanut2012 15 hrs ago #46
They do it all the time Lithos 11 hrs ago #62
The way this is done without a warrant is..... reACTIONary 8 hrs ago #67
Just wait ForgedCrank 16 hrs ago #20
One of those is less than a mile down the main road that runs in front of the farm. ... littlemissmartypants 16 hrs ago #40
The guy ForgedCrank 16 hrs ago #41
I tried to add it. But it's more complicated than I have bandwidth for at the moment. ... littlemissmartypants 15 hrs ago #52
Oooooh! MorbidButterflyTat 5 hrs ago #71
It really does! What a great idea, MBT! ❤️ littlemissmartypants 4 hrs ago #72
Kick dalton99a 17 hrs ago #5
I do not have a cell phone katmondoo 17 hrs ago #7
I don't have one either! CountAllVotes 15 hrs ago #43
It's called 'Stingray' CousinIT 17 hrs ago #6
Stingray is ancient tech orangecrush 16 hrs ago #21
Still in use though, it seems - article from June 2025. I remember from the No Kings protest...people were.. CousinIT 16 hrs ago #24
There are apps in Google Play store orangecrush 16 hrs ago #32
So would it work to "go invisible" if you turn your phone totally off and put it in an RFID wallet? woodsprite 17 hrs ago #8
Burners are currently the best option, and the cheapest for their efficacy. Hellbound Hellhound 17 hrs ago #9
Spot on. orangecrush 16 hrs ago #22
Cheers mate, thanks for the nod. Hellbound Hellhound 16 hrs ago #25
True again orangecrush 16 hrs ago #30
Solid. I've always wanted to get into HAM but money's been the limiting factor. Hellbound Hellhound 16 hrs ago #31
Look up "Baofeng" ham radio orangecrush 16 hrs ago #33
No shit? Man, I just took a look and they've changed a LOT since I looked last! Hellbound Hellhound 16 hrs ago #35
My pleasure orangecrush 16 hrs ago #36
I saw a video orangecrush 16 hrs ago #26
Agreed, with cameras everywhere, the only surefire way to not get tracked via phone is to not have a phone. Hellbound Hellhound 16 hrs ago #29
A good RFID bag (or Faraday bag) would help a lot. erronis 15 hrs ago #49
Perhaps you could "go invisible" temporarily. progressoid 7 hrs ago #68
Scary jfz9580m 17 hrs ago #10
Your tax dollars at work. Kid Berwyn 17 hrs ago #11
Well, when you integrate something into every aspect of your life without a clear understanding of how it all works... OldBaldy1701E 17 hrs ago #12
California launches one-click system to delete personal data from hundreds of brokers cbabe 16 hrs ago #15
Good idea. We'll see how well it really works. erronis 15 hrs ago #50
Law enforcement has been using portable cell phone tower capture devices...stingray...since the 90's Melon 16 hrs ago #13
Can law enforcement "see" your phone if your location services is turned off? Felicita 5 hrs ago #69
I think if your phone is on...which is using cell service Melon 3 hrs ago #76
Having a cell phone is like having the Government in your pocket, and not just the U.S. gov! RedWhiteBlueIsRacist 16 hrs ago #14
Word orangecrush 16 hrs ago #34
THAT was the name of the show I was thinking of, "Person of Interest". Hellbound Hellhound 15 hrs ago #42
The consistent misuse of information has a foul smell attached to it Torchlight 15 hrs ago #51
Intrusive vs Exclusive Tech 2na fisherman 15 hrs ago #55
that has to be unconstitutional, right? barbtries 14 hrs ago #56
You'd be surprised how much of their lives people sign away to cell phone companies in their contracts. n/t Hellbound Hellhound 14 hrs ago #59
Faraday bags -misanthroptimist 14 hrs ago #60
I somehow survived half a century without a cell phone. hunter 13 hrs ago #61
NAZIS Joinfortmill 11 hrs ago #63
A VPN will protect your data through encryption, although not your movement GoodRaisin 10 hrs ago #64
Elon??? Evolve Dammit 9 hrs ago #65
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