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Fiendish Thingy

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15. That is clearly inaccurate
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 12:34 PM
Monday

In the past week, we have seen numerous Republicans defect and pushback against Trump on various issues in both floor votes and public statements, including about Greenland.

If the EU starts selling off its treasury bonds and the US dollar is on the verge of collapse, not to mention seizing/banning US companies, donations to republicans will evaporate, and the pressure from the financial elites for congress to rein Trump in or remove him altogether will be tremendous.

Let’s take Musk, for example- If Tesla is blocked from doing business in Europe, Starlink is shut down, and X is banned, what do you think his position will be?

Now ask Jeff Bezos, Tim Cook, Peter Theil, Jamie Dimon, etc. Their supplication to Trump will flip in a heartbeat if European retaliation becomes a bigger threat to their bottom line than Trump’s wrath.

There are only a small number of true die hard Trump cultists among Republicans in congress and among the financial elites- most are just opportunists or terrified scaredy-cats. When the heat ramps up, they will flee like the cowardly rats we always knew them to be.

Up to this point they could shrug off Trump’s worse impulse because it didn’t impact them personally and business/politics was still soaring in their favor, but an invasion of Greenland would end that overnight.

Hopefully they will use their leverage before it’s too late for them or us.

PS- you must have missed the reports yesterday that JCOS pushed back on Trump order to develop plans for an invasion of Greenland, saying it would be illegal, as well as past reports of National Guard CO’s stating they would refuse to order troops to use force against Americans (Oregon commander specifically, but others made similar comments).

Yes, some have followed orders of questionable legality, using justifications from Trump’s Yes Men JAGs as legal cover, but I think you do a great disservice to both the military and the general morale of the resistance by using such a broad brush to smear the entire armed forces. They aren’t “100% behind” Trump, and your “giant death cult to end the world” comment is way over the top.

PPS- you might want to go furniture shopping for a new chair, as the one you’ve got seems to be clouding your perceptions.

PPPS- Breathe. We’re each going to need all the stamina we can muster to get through this.

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"The first domino to fall is the North Atlantic Treaty Organization itself" kentuck Monday #1
Not just Putin but blue-wave Monday #20
For the love of God . . . Scubamatt Monday #58
there are but they have proven themselves to be cowards. nt Javaman Tuesday #74
There are few. if any of those old Republicans alive today. The Nazi salute is the norm with this batch. peacebuzzard Tuesday #80
I fully expect china to invade Taiwan at that point. Javaman Tuesday #73
I've been screaming from the rooftops... GiqueCee Monday #66
Good analysis. Horrifying that this is who we are now. Every once in a while, the magnitude of that Scrivener7 Monday #2
All true, and why I said yesterday Trump would be impeached and removed- by Republicans Fiendish Thingy Monday #3
It's nice to imagine that angrychair Monday #13
That is clearly inaccurate Fiendish Thingy Monday #15
You have a lot more faith angrychair Monday #22
sadly, agreed Cosmocat Monday #30
if this comes to fruition, I see various states calling up their national guard against ICE Javaman Tuesday #75
I take no joy in agreeing this is the likely way it will play out Cosmocat Monday #29
What is the mechanism? dpibel Monday #17
The mechanisms are in the constitution Fiendish Thingy Monday #23
Yes. I gave a quick summary of the 25th dpibel Monday #27
I just reread all my comments in this thread, and I don't find the word "immediately" anywhere Fiendish Thingy Monday #38
I guess you missed my edit dpibel Monday #41
You should contact the major book publishers Fiendish Thingy Monday #48
LOL dpibel Monday #49
I guess I should be flattered with all your attention Fiendish Thingy Monday #50
It's funny when nitpicker becomes nitpickee Qutzupalotl Monday #59
Think the JFK mechanism Joinfortmill Monday #54
Doubtful Cosmocat Monday #25
Somewhere Lindsey Graham just *eed in his pants.... Jack Valentino Monday #64
We know what would happen to Piggy Jr' Coldwater Monday #4
It sickens me to my core to know that piece of shit believes he will one day be President... Moostache Monday #34
Heck, we've ALREADY had way more of that family than we could ever have wanted. calimary Tuesday #67
Fact of life Timewas Monday #5
None of this is going to happen. Glaisne Monday #6
It's not my analysis. I know the US has a long-standing treaty regarding the military base Ocelot II Monday #7
It's the worst case scenario, so it is a useful warning thought crime Monday #31
The U.S. has ONE base only. Breaking the NATO treaty will be an unlawful order to the U.S. Military. The NATO Treaty is ancianita Monday #8
i hadn't thought about it this way MadameButterfly Monday #33
But the US military has. ancianita Monday #40
Tim Kaine was similarly confident MadameButterfly Monday #45
Cool. What Congress thinks or votes on adds validation for a decision that is the U.S. Military's alone; ancianita Monday #46
As Trump has shown in just the past week, treaties can be torn up or ignored. Nt Fiendish Thingy Monday #16
We cannot afford this. bluescribbler Monday #9
The people of Greenland&Canada should launch a class-action lawsuit against the US for tRumps terror campaign against us Fords Crackpipe Monday #10
And Vladimir Putin will have gotten everything he wants, and he won't even have had to leave the building. Aristus Monday #11
Every so often, I think of Susan Sarandon Ruby the Liberal Monday #65
she is and will always be a fucking halfwit. nt Javaman Tuesday #76
A very clear, concise, and I believe correct accessment. Thank you Ocelot II flashman13 Monday #12
See the first word? It's IF. That makes the piece a total hypothetical. Not an analysis. The fact that it's on a social ancianita Monday #44
Don't be trying to school me. I suppose you think the world will thank us for for attacking an ally. flashman13 Monday #60
Pfffft school you? about a hypothetical not being logical? Believe what you want. ancianita Monday #62
I'm not predicting anything; don't give me credit or blame for this piece. Ocelot II Tuesday #71
Yep, that's Putin's plan that Trump is carrying out. Break up NATO and destroy the US economy from within. Fozzledick Monday #14
We should not be taking any of this lightly angrychair Monday #18
As someone said on another forum. . . Stargleamer Monday #19
I have always thought something drastic would have to happen to make people wake up. Katinfl Monday #21
Obviously this is a worst-case scenario, and all things that COULD be done by the EU and other NATO members. Ol Janx Spirit Monday #24
Good points about Europe's response but MadameButterfly Monday #43
Well, just like the "hold my beer" guy...he's thinking something.... Ol Janx Spirit Monday #52
I don't think anything will disavow him because of his mental illness MadameButterfly Monday #57
This is all well and good to explain to a thinking man usedtobedemgurl Monday #26
I don't know Cosmocat Monday #28
Static analysis. bucolic_frolic Monday #32
I will finish your essay: ret5hd Monday #35
Yep, mission accomplished. This is the real goal, not Greenland. Irish_Dem Monday #37
The other thing that could happen is that there is little or no reaction. Irish_Dem Monday #36
My crystal ball is foggy. BarbD Monday #39
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Monday #42
Britian has just said in one of this a.m.'s bulletins on DU that they would put troops in Greenland now. If true, SWBTATTReg Monday #47
This sums it up CousinIT Monday #51
I don't think NATO dissolves, just the US's part in it. Javaman Tuesday #77
This explains a lot: "Ending the American Dream by 2029?" CousinIT Tuesday #78
thanks, I'll check it out. I read Toms Dispatch from time to time. :) nt Javaman Tuesday #79
The Russians own Trump. Joinfortmill Monday #53
I would like to see NATO Members OhioTim Monday #55
Is anyone telling this to Stephen Miller and tRump? joanbarnes Monday #56
Sounds to me like Corporate America better get their shit together and reign in their puppet.nt Trueblue Texan Monday #61
Chilling that the donor class hasn't gotten their shit together to stop him Ruby the Liberal Monday #63
Yeah, we'd become Figarosmom Tuesday #68
"Oh--everything I touch gets ruined." That's trump's life. C Moon Tuesday #69
The epitome of..... MarcoZandrini Tuesday #70
not to mention all the private companies that do business in Europe Javaman Tuesday #72
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