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56. Is anyone telling this to Stephen Miller and tRump?

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Mon Jan 12, 2026, 05:16 PM

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Interesting and unnerving analysis of what could happen if Piggy invaded Greenland: [View all] Ocelot II Yesterday OP

"The first domino to fall is the North Atlantic Treaty Organization itself" kentuck Yesterday #1

Not just Putin but blue-wave 22 hrs ago #20

For the love of God . . . Scubamatt 17 hrs ago #58

there are but they have proven themselves to be cowards. nt Javaman 2 hrs ago #74

There are few. if any of those old Republicans alive today. The Nazi salute is the norm with this batch. peacebuzzard 1 hr ago #80

I fully expect china to invade Taiwan at that point. Javaman 2 hrs ago #73

I've been screaming from the rooftops... GiqueCee 13 hrs ago #66

Good analysis. Horrifying that this is who we are now. Every once in a while, the magnitude of that Scrivener7 Yesterday #2

All true, and why I said yesterday Trump would be impeached and removed- by Republicans Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #3

It's nice to imagine that angrychair 23 hrs ago #13

That is clearly inaccurate Fiendish Thingy 23 hrs ago #15

You have a lot more faith angrychair 22 hrs ago #22

sadly, agreed Cosmocat 22 hrs ago #30

if this comes to fruition, I see various states calling up their national guard against ICE Javaman 2 hrs ago #75

I take no joy in agreeing this is the likely way it will play out Cosmocat 22 hrs ago #29

What is the mechanism? dpibel 23 hrs ago #17

The mechanisms are in the constitution Fiendish Thingy 22 hrs ago #23

Yes. I gave a quick summary of the 25th dpibel 22 hrs ago #27

I just reread all my comments in this thread, and I don't find the word "immediately" anywhere Fiendish Thingy 22 hrs ago #38

I guess you missed my edit dpibel 21 hrs ago #41

You should contact the major book publishers Fiendish Thingy 20 hrs ago #48

LOL dpibel 20 hrs ago #49

I guess I should be flattered with all your attention Fiendish Thingy 20 hrs ago #50

It's funny when nitpicker becomes nitpickee Qutzupalotl 16 hrs ago #59

Think the JFK mechanism Joinfortmill 19 hrs ago #54

Doubtful Cosmocat 22 hrs ago #25

Somewhere Lindsey Graham just *eed in his pants.... Jack Valentino 14 hrs ago #64

We know what would happen to Piggy Jr' Coldwater Yesterday #4

It sickens me to my core to know that piece of shit believes he will one day be President... Moostache 22 hrs ago #34

Heck, we've ALREADY had way more of that family than we could ever have wanted. calimary 9 hrs ago #67

Fact of life Timewas Yesterday #5

None of this is going to happen. Glaisne Yesterday #6

It's not my analysis. I know the US has a long-standing treaty regarding the military base Ocelot II Yesterday #7

It's the worst case scenario, so it is a useful warning thought crime 22 hrs ago #31

The U.S. has ONE base only. Breaking the NATO treaty will be an unlawful order to the U.S. Military. The NATO Treaty is ancianita 23 hrs ago #8

i hadn't thought about it this way MadameButterfly 22 hrs ago #33

But the US military has. ancianita 21 hrs ago #40

Tim Kaine was similarly confident MadameButterfly 21 hrs ago #45

Cool. What Congress thinks or votes on adds validation for a decision that is the U.S. Military's alone; ancianita 21 hrs ago #46

As Trump has shown in just the past week, treaties can be torn up or ignored. Nt Fiendish Thingy 23 hrs ago #16

We cannot afford this. bluescribbler 23 hrs ago #9

The people of Greenland&Canada should launch a class-action lawsuit against the US for tRumps terror campaign against us Fords Crackpipe 23 hrs ago #10

And Vladimir Putin will have gotten everything he wants, and he won't even have had to leave the building. Aristus 23 hrs ago #11

Every so often, I think of Susan Sarandon Ruby the Liberal 14 hrs ago #65

she is and will always be a fucking halfwit. nt Javaman 1 hr ago #76

A very clear, concise, and I believe correct accessment. Thank you Ocelot II flashman13 23 hrs ago #12

See the first word? It's IF. That makes the piece a total hypothetical. Not an analysis. The fact that it's on a social ancianita 21 hrs ago #44

Don't be trying to school me. I suppose you think the world will thank us for for attacking an ally. flashman13 15 hrs ago #60

Pfffft school you? about a hypothetical not being logical? Believe what you want. ancianita 15 hrs ago #62

I'm not predicting anything; don't give me credit or blame for this piece. Ocelot II 2 hrs ago #71

Yep, that's Putin's plan that Trump is carrying out. Break up NATO and destroy the US economy from within. Fozzledick 23 hrs ago #14

We should not be taking any of this lightly angrychair 22 hrs ago #18

As someone said on another forum. . . Stargleamer 22 hrs ago #19

I have always thought something drastic would have to happen to make people wake up. Katinfl 22 hrs ago #21

Obviously this is a worst-case scenario, and all things that COULD be done by the EU and other NATO members. Ol Janx Spirit 22 hrs ago #24

Good points about Europe's response but MadameButterfly 21 hrs ago #43

Well, just like the "hold my beer" guy...he's thinking something.... Ol Janx Spirit 19 hrs ago #52

I don't think anything will disavow him because of his mental illness MadameButterfly 18 hrs ago #57

This is all well and good to explain to a thinking man usedtobedemgurl 22 hrs ago #26

I don't know Cosmocat 22 hrs ago #28

Static analysis. bucolic_frolic 22 hrs ago #32

I will finish your essay: ret5hd 22 hrs ago #35

Yep, mission accomplished. This is the real goal, not Greenland. Irish_Dem 22 hrs ago #37

The other thing that could happen is that there is little or no reaction. Irish_Dem 22 hrs ago #36

My crystal ball is foggy. BarbD 22 hrs ago #39

Kick. N/T Upthevibe 21 hrs ago #42

Britian has just said in one of this a.m.'s bulletins on DU that they would put troops in Greenland now. If true, SWBTATTReg 21 hrs ago #47

This sums it up CousinIT 19 hrs ago #51

I don't think NATO dissolves, just the US's part in it. Javaman 1 hr ago #77

This explains a lot: "Ending the American Dream by 2029?" CousinIT 1 hr ago #78

thanks, I'll check it out. I read Toms Dispatch from time to time. :) nt Javaman 1 hr ago #79

The Russians own Trump. Joinfortmill 19 hrs ago #53

I would like to see NATO Members OhioTim 18 hrs ago #55

Is anyone telling this to Stephen Miller and tRump? joanbarnes 18 hrs ago #56

Sounds to me like Corporate America better get their shit together and reign in their puppet.nt Trueblue Texan 15 hrs ago #61

Chilling that the donor class hasn't gotten their shit together to stop him Ruby the Liberal 14 hrs ago #63

Yeah, we'd become Figarosmom 8 hrs ago #68

"Oh--everything I touch gets ruined." That's trump's life. C Moon 8 hrs ago #69

The epitome of..... MarcoZandrini 4 hrs ago #70

not to mention all the private companies that do business in Europe Javaman 2 hrs ago #72