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B.See

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24. Thank you for you response.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 07:06 PM
Yesterday

Some might think it (what was the term?) "pseudo intellectual" (j.k ) but that would be unworthy of the care and thought you obviously took in sharing your opinion.

1. Re shifts (generational and otherwise) in identity / ideological characteristics, defaut truths and such. Yes I agree that is occurring in ways that blur the lines. Bottom line though, come election time, one has to choose between two distinct futures, more distinct now than ever before. And for the ideologically vague, confused, undecided, bothsiders, the not quite sure and such, the wrong choice, or no choice at all, can be costly... even DEADLY. As we are now learning only too well.

Yes, some went low on Bowen and Matt. Which I condemn. But others (including myself) simply didn't think they were the ones who should be telling us who to support or contribute to. We thought they had neither the experience nor the credentials. We thought it did us a disservice. Had nothing to do with who or what they are.

2. Re. the author of the linked op-ed. Yes, it is written through the lens of her own experiences, and on a platform geared toward a certain audience. Newsone is a Black online news site. And Dr. Patton (as you may recall) was the target of similar racists attacks, as well as threats to her life when she and some of her colleagues were placed on a "professors watchlist" compiled by Kirk and his "Turning Point USA." So yes, I'd agree, she writes from a certain... perspective. A certain "awareness" if you will.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stacey_Patton

3. Re. the construct of "white woman immunity" I'd agree it is a construct that is, at best, not nearly as infallible or sacrosanct as some would think, but nevertheless, a construct upon which a whole lot of otherwise inexplicable actions are based.

Otherwise, how else to explain a woman calling cops on a Black homeowner she thinks doesn't live there, or falsely accusing another of having stolen something that turns up in her pocketbook, or dozens upon dozens of other incidents where women, who at least PRESUMED themselves to be of privilege, harassed, intimidated, acted out against, and/or falsely accused someone of something they did not do? And to make such charges without fear of repercussions.

4. Re. 'Renee deserves better than reduction to identity.' We all do." TRUE. But the right has already done that. And wasted no time doing so. Identity politics is the name of their game.

5. "The world is not that anymore and hasn't been in some time." Here I respectfully disagree. It very MUCH is that. THEY, Trump, MAGA, used a dead woman for identity political football. THEY, dismissed a women's lived experiences.

IMO. Patton merely called out what THEY did, and called it par for the COURSE.

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Good had a wife, used pronouns and wrote poetry. sop Yesterday #1
Bingo! OldBaldy1701E Yesterday #18
I think the fact that she was married to a woman came to play a big part in this. RockCreek Yesterday #2
American conservative men largly view women as property. USS_Dauntless Yesterday #7
Women mean as little to them as people of color or differing religions or political affiliation. Marie Marie Yesterday #3
This doesn't require an essay. It's ideological tribalism. Sympthsical Yesterday #4
Well, you're entitled to your opinion, but B.See Yesterday #6
I honestly don't expect many people here to agree with me Sympthsical Yesterday #17
Thank you for you response. B.See Yesterday #24
I appreciate the engagement Sympthsical Yesterday #29
Points taken. I think we both know where B.See Yesterday #33
This message was self-deleted by its author B.See Yesterday #34
I'm strongly in favor of Palestinian rights AZProgressive Yesterday #27
Look at AOC's Jan. 9th post on Twitter about Hamas Sympthsical Yesterday #30
I don't visit much Social Media AZProgressive Yesterday #31
White women are promised NOTHING - TBF Yesterday #5
You are absolutely correct... B.See Yesterday #8
"the promise was always an illusion" - that's just it, I don't believe there is any promise TBF Yesterday #25
Yes, from the day you are born. Zackzzzz Yesterday #11
"Protecting women," just as "protecting children," is just an excuse they use to control and attack unblock Yesterday #32
lol why WOULDN'T they cheer?? WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #9
I don't get your meaning. B.See Yesterday #13
I'm saying why wouldn't these white supremacist men cheer about the death of someone who was doing her part WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #14
Ah. Knew there had to be more to it B.See Yesterday #15
No problem -- I'm always happy to clarify. Thanks for being generous and giving me a chance to. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #16
I'm a white man !! RB77 Yesterday #10
A common refrain - TBF Yesterday #20
It shouldn't offend you to acknowlege that many white men are cheering. Quiet Em Yesterday #23
The offense you take is no more than the offense you choose Torchlight Yesterday #28
Same reason why a significant percentage of white women are cheering Kaleva Yesterday #12
Because we are being run by some seriously demented psychopaths who want absolute power. Initech Yesterday #19
"across my own social media timelines" Found the problem. flvegan Yesterday #21
BECAUSE THEY HATE WOMEN. milestogo Yesterday #22
Because they killed a women. They're giddy little cretins. marble falls Yesterday #26
This message was self-deleted by its author mr715 Yesterday #35
Because they would have kacekwl 22 hrs ago #36
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