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GreatGazoo

(4,492 posts)
5. Yes - Intimidation and fear are part of the design
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 09:21 AM
Yesterday

The administration has said so. They told people "self-deport".

But the rest is incompetence. ICE officers have shot each other. Ross came within inches of shooting the ICE guy who was in Good's car window. Shooting the driver of a car which is, in theory, coming straight at you will not stop the vehicle from coming straight at you(!) Training says you 1) don't put yourself in that position and 2) get out of that position ASAP. Likewise shooting with only one hand on the gun so that the other hand can video record via phone is not competent or well-trained police behavior. Likewise putting yourself in a position where you could be dragged by a vehicle.

These aren't teams of people that competent law enforcement people want to be part of. "Friendly fire" isn't friendly.

Hanlon's Razor 2.0: "Never attribute to grand design that which is adequately explained by incompetence."

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The purpose of ICE atrocities [View all] orangecrush Yesterday OP
They are normalizing the indiscriminate killing of average U.S. citizens in preparation for widespread repression. sop Yesterday #1
Fear has put on a uniform again. orangecrush Yesterday #2
THIS! johnnyfins Yesterday #3
Now they will do anything dear leader tells them to orangecrush Yesterday #4
Yes - Intimidation and fear are part of the design GreatGazoo Yesterday #5
Comey says Trump demanded 'loyalty' in private meeting UpInArms Yesterday #6
Exactly! OldBaldy1701E Yesterday #7
Yes. This is their plan, and we have to understand that. Scrivener7 Yesterday #8
They want us dead. SamKnause Yesterday #9
ICE is Don's private Army azureblue Yesterday #10
Maybe that is what that "stand back and stand by" Trailrider1951 Yesterday #18
If we have a presidential election in 2028 and a Democrat wins, ICE needs to be disbanded immediately. Lonestarblue Yesterday #11
If we don't deal with this shit now orangecrush Yesterday #12
And every single agent should be facing some ultra-serious charges. calimary Yesterday #13
You mean DHS right? Bettie Yesterday #19
Yes. Just fixed. Thanks! Lonestarblue Yesterday #32
Agreed with a caveat... Moostache Yesterday #29
Three reasons. EPSTEIN, EPSTEIN, and EPSTEIN usonian Yesterday #14
New ICE agents are getting close to a $50,000 salary. Which is not a huge salary. Fla Dem Yesterday #15
When you give that much to someone otherwise only marginally employable orangecrush Yesterday #16
When you are a mouth-breathing uneducated racist pig, $50K bonus is RICH... Moostache Yesterday #30
What is Putin offering? Asking for a fiend. usonian 23 hrs ago #33
58.52% Cirsium 23 hrs ago #34
After George Floyd was killed in 2020, Minneapolis erupted in civil disobedience FakeNoose Yesterday #17
I think he's going to try orangecrush Yesterday #22
There's no mechanism for doing that, even Scotus has to agree FakeNoose Yesterday #25
The mechanism orangecrush Yesterday #27
I gotta say that you know, it never dawned on me how the cops were during the Floyd killing. bluestarone Yesterday #28
My guess at this point popsdenver Yesterday #20
Exactly orangecrush Yesterday #21
Yup, Exactly popsdenver Yesterday #26
Bad Times when the State uses it. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #23
Fear has put on a uniform again. orangecrush Yesterday #24
The Trump Mob thought the US CITIZENS would acquiesce as easily as many big law-firms and universities did. Attilatheblond Yesterday #31
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