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Kid Berwyn

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7. Keeping one's powder dry.

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Tue Jan 13, 2026, 11:44 AM

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Still waiting for us to sink the Swift Boat liars.

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Schumer and Jeffries Refuse to Back Growing Democratic Calls to Defund ICE [View all] Mysterian Yesterday OP

I don't know if they want to reveal everything in their toolbox right now, so to speak Just_Vote_Dem Yesterday #1

Keeping one's powder dry. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #7

Seriously your comment is a bit reassuring vapor2 Yesterday #17

This is kinda the same argument many of us here on DU, including me, were making in regards to Merrick Garland, MarineCombatEngineer Yesterday #18

I hear you, but Just_Vote_Dem Yesterday #20

... orangecrush Yesterday #76

maybe we could try... ret5hd Yesterday #101

If a rogue militia gunning down American citizens with impunity is not the right time, what is? Scrivener7 Yesterday #102

1000% TIMES THIS. No more M.Garland-style hope. No more wishing Maru Kitteh Yesterday #27

Garland handed over a fast moving investigation to Smith who brought an indictment with more than enough time to convict bigtree Yesterday #48

Thank you! betsuni Yesterday #57

Hey there, posse pal! MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #71

Giddy-up, partner! betsuni Yesterday #77

Yippy kai yay! sheshe2 3 hrs ago #128

Ever see Die Hard? MorbidButterflyTat 2 hrs ago #129

LOL.... sheshe2 2 hrs ago #130

You're preaching to the choir MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #70

When it was discovered he had stolen all that classified material questionseverything Yesterday #81

This! A hundred times this!! CrispyQ Yesterday #87

He for sure wouldn't be walking around freely questionseverything Yesterday #88

anyone looking at how high profile prosecutions are challenged and appealed bigtree Yesterday #89

If he was sitting in jail, waiting for trial like any other traitor would be questionseverything Yesterday #90

that possibility just existed in the internet fantasy prosecution bigtree Yesterday #91

We disagree and I don't feel the need to belittle you and that's your entire argument questionseverything Yesterday #92

lol bigtree Yesterday #94

Yeah right. choie Yesterday #33

Respectfully, I understand the optimism angrychair Yesterday #41

I appreciate the response Just_Vote_Dem Yesterday #42

No worries at all angrychair Yesterday #44

Thank you! Just_Vote_Dem Yesterday #46

Seconding angrychair in my hopes that you improve hamsterjill Yesterday #68

Thank you so much! Just_Vote_Dem Yesterday #84

This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush Yesterday #74

They need to meet this moment leftstreet Yesterday #2

Sadly, I think we need to face the fact that they won't. And our Democratic popularity will stay in the tank. Scrivener7 23 hrs ago #105

Gosh I hope they don't listen. Everyone knows defund is a TERRIBLE slogan. Maybe something like "we want nicer ICE?" WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #3

Seen on social media: I like my ICE crushed. CrispyQ Yesterday #8

Saw the same meme the other day peggysue2 Yesterday #65

Defund is a third rail term Johonny Yesterday #4

How about " Keep the Border Sealed-- Re-form Ice" Ars Longa Yesterday #23

Build the case that ICE is wasting money, on jets for instance. dem4decades Yesterday #34

I didn't want to defund them angrychair Yesterday #47

Unlike Defund the Police, this is a movement/term I can 100% back. n/t Ms. Toad Yesterday #35

"There is nothing impossible to him who will try." Kid Berwyn Yesterday #5

They could write strict regulations into the bill Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #6

what bill? bigtree Yesterday #59

My comments were in the context of positions the leadership could take Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #82

the members of their respective bodies chose them bigtree Yesterday #93

"It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners." ― Albert Camus Ping Tung Yesterday #9

Wanting to neuter ICE is a political loser... biocube Yesterday #10

The only test they have to pass is a loyalty test. gab13by13 Yesterday #12

Yes they definitely need MORE money WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #14

Oh! So the ICE murderer just wasn't trained properly leftstreet Yesterday #19

Yes, I think if we had the same requirements for police officers biocube Yesterday #22

yeah we know cops never murder anybody WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #24

Nonsense leftstreet Yesterday #30

I don't see a lot of evidence pointing towards your assertion Torchlight Yesterday #21

More training for Proud Boys Brownshirts is not going to make a bit of difference SamuelTheThird Yesterday #31

Yeah that's what happened choie Yesterday #37

I have a question that I hope those with more knowledge on this can help explain Quiet Em Yesterday #11

Victims refuse JBTaurus83 Yesterday #13

At the very minimum, DISARM ICE C_U_L8R Yesterday #15

I recommend they never say ANYTHING aocommunalpunch Yesterday #16

Because complicity has been an effective response so far! Duncan Grant Yesterday #25

They should have a background check. No arrest Emile Yesterday #26

No wonder so many Dems are registering as independent now. CousinIT Yesterday #28

Something about beatings continuing until morale improves. n/t flvegan Yesterday #29

Schumer and Jeffries are legitimate, elected leaders. gulliver Yesterday #32

Wut? We can't call for the reining-in of ICE because we weren't elected? And we're trying to lose us the midterms Scrivener7 Yesterday #103

Both need to face a primary. This is being complicit in the torture and murder of US citizens as well as immigrants. Demsrule86 Yesterday #36

Schumer is not up until 28 SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #49

no Dem leader could undo the funding right now bigtree Yesterday #55

No matter how many times it's explained who votes for leadership, fact refuses to sink in. betsuni Yesterday #72

seriously. I have a hard time believing that they don't know the leaders represent the membership bigtree Yesterday #78

I know. Now I have the urge to use "refuse" in every sentence. betsuni Yesterday #83

THEY DON'T CONTROL THE BUDGET bigtree Yesterday #38

Again big thank you. betsuni Yesterday #64

you're welcome, going back to my plough, now bigtree Yesterday #66

Oh, look! Facts. Logic. Truth. (Thank you!) QueerDuck 6 hrs ago #121

Long worried about Schumer. Now worried about Jeffries. Nm Grins Yesterday #39

Defunding ICE maliaSmith Yesterday #40

While i agree something needs to be done Samael13 Yesterday #43

correct, I see less than half a dozen legislators in the article bigtree Yesterday #63

How large is too large BidenRocks Yesterday #45

Many Desirable Things Would be Possible if We Had a Democratic Majority in the House and Senate. MineralMan Yesterday #50

I would assume that both the SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #51

Our nation survived for 202 years without Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Thunderbeast Yesterday #52

ICE was only formed in late 2003 as a response to 9/11 and the Homeland Security Act. It's budget then was Nanjeanne Yesterday #53

Clickbait headline mcar Yesterday #54

"Little interest" - oh, that's so much better! I'm relieved. Thank God. (nt) Duncan Grant Yesterday #60

Better than refuse and the headline is misleading mcar Yesterday #62

Regardless, they are doing nothing more than make speeches. Duncan Grant Yesterday #67

"...impotent, cowardly acquiescence." MorbidButterflyTat 2 hrs ago #133

It's designed to feed the anger of those who promote that Democrats "do-nothing" and "know-nothing" or... QueerDuck 6 hrs ago #122

Yup mcar 4 hrs ago #125

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Truth...out. sheshe2 2 hrs ago #131

Oh yeah mcar 2 hrs ago #132

I won't comment because I'd just get a post removed message CanonRay Yesterday #56

Close the border! Leave law abiding people alone! OrlandoDem2 Yesterday #58

Childish belief there are simple easy solutions for everything but mean old Democrats refuse to do them. betsuni Yesterday #61

Yeah orangecrush Yesterday #80

Childish belief the designated leaders do no wrong Mysterian Yesterday #100

Said nobody ever. betsuni 23 hrs ago #104

Do you actually believe you "debunked" anything with this post: Mysterian 7 hrs ago #111

You shall soon be implied to be a bad Democrat mr715 7 hrs ago #114

"Childish" mr715 7 hrs ago #113

I'd like to see new leadership. hamsterjill Yesterday #69

the members of the party elect their own leadership bigtree Yesterday #96

Well, it's time for a change in my opinion. hamsterjill Yesterday #98

Post removed Post removed Yesterday #73

Didn't we all just have this same argument last week? MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #75

this time it's conveniently while Dems are meeting this week to make these decisions bigtree Yesterday #97

It refuses to go away. We will see it again next week and the week after that and the week after that. betsuni 23 hrs ago #106

Makes me sick orangecrush Yesterday #79

When maga has run its course, there will be time enough at last to regroup. usonian Yesterday #85

This is war. They want to destroy us. I'm tired of nambie pambie pretending any of the is normal. flashman13 Yesterday #86

you don't even know their position on this, yay or nay bigtree Yesterday #95

Possibly you missed a reporter asking Jefferies straight up whether he supported de-funding ICE. flashman13 Yesterday #99

that's specious bigtree 23 hrs ago #108

No it's not. It's more weak kneed non leadership. flashman13 11 hrs ago #110

Leaders lead. mr715 7 hrs ago #112

they are leading. bigtree 7 hrs ago #116

The minority leader's function isn't really legislating mr715 7 hrs ago #118

'opposition messaging' is a canard in this case bigtree 7 hrs ago #119

As you know, the Senate leadership mr715 6 hrs ago #120

'defund' is a word that you likely won't see anywhere in any messaging from the leadership bigtree 6 hrs ago #123

Again, I appreciate this position mr715 6 hrs ago #124

""Statements and letters are not enough, and the appropriations process Scrivener7 23 hrs ago #107

They seem to be "re-fighting last year's election"---- Jack Valentino 23 hrs ago #109

Why? kentuck 7 hrs ago #115

that's nonsense bigtree 7 hrs ago #117

I look forward to seeing their replacements take over. nt Gore1FL 4 hrs ago #126