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55. no Dem leader could undo the funding right now
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 02:23 PM
18 hrs ago

NO Democrat voted for ANY of the finding.

So what is this canard supposed to do in changing that equation voters saddled the Democratic party leaders with.

No new Dem leader is going to do anything differently in this case. They just aren't.

Isn't it obvious that's why no Democrat that voted to advance either Dem leader is calling for anyone to replace them, or claiming they could do better?

I mean, who do people think elect the Dem leadership of the party??

Clue: it's not the voters in the districts who want and need these two legislators to represent them in their respective states and districts.

Seriously, what the fuck is voting them out of power about? Neither has ever supported the funding or this administration's use of it. Neither is out of step with the people they lead in their respective caucuses.

Voting them out of a slim majority with the expectation that would change the equation in a Democratic minority in both Houses is the height of delusion and falsity.

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I don't know if they want to reveal everything in their toolbox right now, so to speak Just_Vote_Dem 21 hrs ago #1
Keeping one's powder dry. Kid Berwyn 21 hrs ago #7
Seriously your comment is a bit reassuring vapor2 20 hrs ago #17
This is kinda the same argument many of us here on DU, including me, were making in regards to Merrick Garland, MarineCombatEngineer 20 hrs ago #18
I hear you, but Just_Vote_Dem 20 hrs ago #20
... orangecrush 17 hrs ago #76
maybe we could try... ret5hd 12 hrs ago #101
If a rogue militia gunning down American citizens with impunity is not the right time, what is? Scrivener7 11 hrs ago #102
1000% TIMES THIS. No more M.Garland-style hope. No more wishing Maru Kitteh 19 hrs ago #27
Garland handed over a fast moving investigation to Smith who brought an indictment with more than enough time to convict bigtree 18 hrs ago #48
Thank you! betsuni 18 hrs ago #57
Hey there, posse pal! MorbidButterflyTat 17 hrs ago #71
Giddy-up, partner! betsuni 17 hrs ago #77
You're preaching to the choir MorbidButterflyTat 17 hrs ago #70
When it was discovered he had stolen all that classified material questionseverything 16 hrs ago #81
This! A hundred times this!! CrispyQ 15 hrs ago #87
He for sure wouldn't be walking around freely questionseverything 15 hrs ago #88
anyone looking at how high profile prosecutions are challenged and appealed bigtree 15 hrs ago #89
If he was sitting in jail, waiting for trial like any other traitor would be questionseverything 14 hrs ago #90
that possibility just existed in the internet fantasy prosecution bigtree 14 hrs ago #91
We disagree and I don't feel the need to belittle you and that's your entire argument questionseverything 14 hrs ago #92
lol bigtree 14 hrs ago #94
Yeah right. choie 19 hrs ago #33
Respectfully, I understand the optimism angrychair 19 hrs ago #41
I appreciate the response Just_Vote_Dem 18 hrs ago #42
No worries at all angrychair 18 hrs ago #44
Thank you! Just_Vote_Dem 18 hrs ago #46
Seconding angrychair in my hopes that you improve hamsterjill 17 hrs ago #68
Thank you so much! Just_Vote_Dem 16 hrs ago #84
This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush 17 hrs ago #74
They need to meet this moment leftstreet 21 hrs ago #2
Sadly, I think we need to face the fact that they won't. And our Democratic popularity will stay in the tank. Scrivener7 10 hrs ago #105
Gosh I hope they don't listen. Everyone knows defund is a TERRIBLE slogan. Maybe something like "we want nicer ICE?" WhiskeyGrinder 21 hrs ago #3
Seen on social media: I like my ICE crushed. CrispyQ 21 hrs ago #8
Saw the same meme the other day peggysue2 17 hrs ago #65
Defund is a third rail term Johonny 21 hrs ago #4
How about " Keep the Border Sealed-- Re-form Ice" Ars Longa 19 hrs ago #23
Build the case that ICE is wasting money, on jets for instance. dem4decades 19 hrs ago #34
I didn't want to defund them angrychair 18 hrs ago #47
Unlike Defund the Police, this is a movement/term I can 100% back. n/t Ms. Toad 19 hrs ago #35
"There is nothing impossible to him who will try." Kid Berwyn 21 hrs ago #5
They could write strict regulations into the bill Fiendish Thingy 21 hrs ago #6
what bill? bigtree 18 hrs ago #59
My comments were in the context of positions the leadership could take Fiendish Thingy 16 hrs ago #82
the members of their respective bodies chose them bigtree 14 hrs ago #93
"It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners." ― Albert Camus Ping Tung 21 hrs ago #9
Wanting to neuter ICE is a political loser... biocube 21 hrs ago #10
The only test they have to pass is a loyalty test. gab13by13 20 hrs ago #12
Yes they definitely need MORE money WhiskeyGrinder 20 hrs ago #14
Oh! So the ICE murderer just wasn't trained properly leftstreet 20 hrs ago #19
Yes, I think if we had the same requirements for police officers biocube 19 hrs ago #22
yeah we know cops never murder anybody WhiskeyGrinder 19 hrs ago #24
Nonsense leftstreet 19 hrs ago #30
I don't see a lot of evidence pointing towards your assertion Torchlight 20 hrs ago #21
More training for Proud Boys Brownshirts is not going to make a bit of difference SamuelTheThird 19 hrs ago #31
Yeah that's what happened choie 19 hrs ago #37
I have a question that I hope those with more knowledge on this can help explain Quiet Em 20 hrs ago #11
Victims refuse JBTaurus83 20 hrs ago #13
At the very minimum, DISARM ICE C_U_L8R 20 hrs ago #15
I recommend they never say ANYTHING aocommunalpunch 20 hrs ago #16
Because complicity has been an effective response so far! Duncan Grant 19 hrs ago #25
They should have a background check. No arrest Emile 19 hrs ago #26
No wonder so many Dems are registering as independent now. CousinIT 19 hrs ago #28
Something about beatings continuing until morale improves. n/t flvegan 19 hrs ago #29
Schumer and Jeffries are legitimate, elected leaders. gulliver 19 hrs ago #32
Wut? We can't call for the reining-in of ICE because we weren't elected? And we're trying to lose us the midterms Scrivener7 11 hrs ago #103
Both need to face a primary. This is being complicit in the torture and murder of US citizens as well as immigrants. Demsrule86 19 hrs ago #36
Schumer is not up until 28 SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #49
no Dem leader could undo the funding right now bigtree 18 hrs ago #55
No matter how many times it's explained who votes for leadership, fact refuses to sink in. betsuni 17 hrs ago #72
seriously. I have a hard time believing that they don't know the leaders represent the membership bigtree 17 hrs ago #78
I know. Now I have the urge to use "refuse" in every sentence. betsuni 16 hrs ago #83
THEY DON'T CONTROL THE BUDGET bigtree 19 hrs ago #38
Again big thank you. betsuni 17 hrs ago #64
you're welcome, going back to my plough, now bigtree 17 hrs ago #66
Long worried about Schumer. Now worried about Jeffries. Nm Grins 19 hrs ago #39
Defunding ICE maliaSmith 19 hrs ago #40
While i agree something needs to be done Samael13 18 hrs ago #43
correct, I see less than half a dozen legislators in the article bigtree 17 hrs ago #63
How large is too large BidenRocks 18 hrs ago #45
Many Desirable Things Would be Possible if We Had a Democratic Majority in the House and Senate. MineralMan 18 hrs ago #50
I would assume that both the SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #51
Our nation survived for 202 years without Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Thunderbeast 18 hrs ago #52
ICE was only formed in late 2003 as a response to 9/11 and the Homeland Security Act. It's budget then was Nanjeanne 18 hrs ago #53
Clickbait headline mcar 18 hrs ago #54
"Little interest" - oh, that's so much better! I'm relieved. Thank God. (nt) Duncan Grant 17 hrs ago #60
Better than refuse and the headline is misleading mcar 17 hrs ago #62
Regardless, they are doing nothing more than make speeches. Duncan Grant 17 hrs ago #67
I won't comment because I'd just get a post removed message CanonRay 18 hrs ago #56
Close the border! Leave law abiding people alone! OrlandoDem2 18 hrs ago #58
Childish belief there are simple easy solutions for everything but mean old Democrats refuse to do them. betsuni 17 hrs ago #61
Yeah orangecrush 17 hrs ago #80
Childish belief the designated leaders do no wrong Mysterian 12 hrs ago #100
Said nobody ever. betsuni 10 hrs ago #104
I'd like to see new leadership. hamsterjill 17 hrs ago #69
the members of the party elect their own leadership bigtree 14 hrs ago #96
Well, it's time for a change in my opinion. hamsterjill 13 hrs ago #98
Post removed Post removed 17 hrs ago #73
Didn't we all just have this same argument last week? MorbidButterflyTat 17 hrs ago #75
this time it's conveniently while Dems are meeting this week to make these decisions bigtree 14 hrs ago #97
It refuses to go away. We will see it again next week and the week after that and the week after that. betsuni 10 hrs ago #106
Makes me sick orangecrush 17 hrs ago #79
When maga has run its course, there will be time enough at last to regroup. usonian 16 hrs ago #85
This is war. They want to destroy us. I'm tired of nambie pambie pretending any of the is normal. flashman13 16 hrs ago #86
you don't even know their position on this, yay or nay bigtree 14 hrs ago #95
Possibly you missed a reporter asking Jefferies straight up whether he supported de-funding ICE. flashman13 12 hrs ago #99
that's specious bigtree 9 hrs ago #108
""Statements and letters are not enough, and the appropriations process Scrivener7 9 hrs ago #107
They seem to be "re-fighting last year's election"---- Jack Valentino 9 hrs ago #109
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