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Duncan Grant

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67. Regardless, they are doing nothing more than make speeches.

Tue Jan 13, 2026, 03:19 PM

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Theirs is a failed leadership — impotent, cowardly acquiescence. If they do not fight, they will not govern. God only knows what happens next to the unprivileged and the rest of us.

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Schumer and Jeffries Refuse to Back Growing Democratic Calls to Defund ICE [View all] Mysterian Yesterday OP

I don't know if they want to reveal everything in their toolbox right now, so to speak Just_Vote_Dem Yesterday #1

Keeping one's powder dry. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #7

Seriously your comment is a bit reassuring vapor2 Yesterday #17

This is kinda the same argument many of us here on DU, including me, were making in regards to Merrick Garland, MarineCombatEngineer Yesterday #18

I hear you, but Just_Vote_Dem Yesterday #20

... orangecrush 22 hrs ago #76

maybe we could try... ret5hd 17 hrs ago #101

If a rogue militia gunning down American citizens with impunity is not the right time, what is? Scrivener7 16 hrs ago #102

1000% TIMES THIS. No more M.Garland-style hope. No more wishing Maru Kitteh Yesterday #27

Garland handed over a fast moving investigation to Smith who brought an indictment with more than enough time to convict bigtree 23 hrs ago #48

Thank you! betsuni 23 hrs ago #57

Hey there, posse pal! MorbidButterflyTat 22 hrs ago #71

Giddy-up, partner! betsuni 22 hrs ago #77

You're preaching to the choir MorbidButterflyTat 22 hrs ago #70

When it was discovered he had stolen all that classified material questionseverything 21 hrs ago #81

This! A hundred times this!! CrispyQ 20 hrs ago #87

He for sure wouldn't be walking around freely questionseverything 20 hrs ago #88

anyone looking at how high profile prosecutions are challenged and appealed bigtree 20 hrs ago #89

If he was sitting in jail, waiting for trial like any other traitor would be questionseverything 19 hrs ago #90

that possibility just existed in the internet fantasy prosecution bigtree 19 hrs ago #91

We disagree and I don't feel the need to belittle you and that's your entire argument questionseverything 19 hrs ago #92

lol bigtree 19 hrs ago #94

Yeah right. choie Yesterday #33

Respectfully, I understand the optimism angrychair Yesterday #41

I appreciate the response Just_Vote_Dem 23 hrs ago #42

No worries at all angrychair 23 hrs ago #44

Thank you! Just_Vote_Dem 23 hrs ago #46

Seconding angrychair in my hopes that you improve hamsterjill 22 hrs ago #68

Thank you so much! Just_Vote_Dem 21 hrs ago #84

This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush 22 hrs ago #74

They need to meet this moment leftstreet Yesterday #2

Sadly, I think we need to face the fact that they won't. And our Democratic popularity will stay in the tank. Scrivener7 15 hrs ago #105

Gosh I hope they don't listen. Everyone knows defund is a TERRIBLE slogan. Maybe something like "we want nicer ICE?" WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #3

Seen on social media: I like my ICE crushed. CrispyQ Yesterday #8

Saw the same meme the other day peggysue2 22 hrs ago #65

Defund is a third rail term Johonny Yesterday #4

How about " Keep the Border Sealed-- Re-form Ice" Ars Longa Yesterday #23

Build the case that ICE is wasting money, on jets for instance. dem4decades Yesterday #34

I didn't want to defund them angrychair 23 hrs ago #47

Unlike Defund the Police, this is a movement/term I can 100% back. n/t Ms. Toad Yesterday #35

"There is nothing impossible to him who will try." Kid Berwyn Yesterday #5

They could write strict regulations into the bill Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #6

what bill? bigtree 23 hrs ago #59

My comments were in the context of positions the leadership could take Fiendish Thingy 21 hrs ago #82

the members of their respective bodies chose them bigtree 19 hrs ago #93

"It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners." ― Albert Camus Ping Tung Yesterday #9

Wanting to neuter ICE is a political loser... biocube Yesterday #10

The only test they have to pass is a loyalty test. gab13by13 Yesterday #12

Yes they definitely need MORE money WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #14

Oh! So the ICE murderer just wasn't trained properly leftstreet Yesterday #19

Yes, I think if we had the same requirements for police officers biocube Yesterday #22

yeah we know cops never murder anybody WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #24

Nonsense leftstreet Yesterday #30

I don't see a lot of evidence pointing towards your assertion Torchlight Yesterday #21

More training for Proud Boys Brownshirts is not going to make a bit of difference SamuelTheThird Yesterday #31

Yeah that's what happened choie Yesterday #37

I have a question that I hope those with more knowledge on this can help explain Quiet Em Yesterday #11

Victims refuse JBTaurus83 Yesterday #13

At the very minimum, DISARM ICE C_U_L8R Yesterday #15

I recommend they never say ANYTHING aocommunalpunch Yesterday #16

Because complicity has been an effective response so far! Duncan Grant Yesterday #25

They should have a background check. No arrest Emile Yesterday #26

No wonder so many Dems are registering as independent now. CousinIT Yesterday #28

Something about beatings continuing until morale improves. n/t flvegan Yesterday #29

Schumer and Jeffries are legitimate, elected leaders. gulliver Yesterday #32

Wut? We can't call for the reining-in of ICE because we weren't elected? And we're trying to lose us the midterms Scrivener7 16 hrs ago #103

Both need to face a primary. This is being complicit in the torture and murder of US citizens as well as immigrants. Demsrule86 Yesterday #36

Schumer is not up until 28 SocialDemocrat61 23 hrs ago #49

no Dem leader could undo the funding right now bigtree 23 hrs ago #55

No matter how many times it's explained who votes for leadership, fact refuses to sink in. betsuni 22 hrs ago #72

seriously. I have a hard time believing that they don't know the leaders represent the membership bigtree 22 hrs ago #78

I know. Now I have the urge to use "refuse" in every sentence. betsuni 21 hrs ago #83

THEY DON'T CONTROL THE BUDGET bigtree Yesterday #38

Again big thank you. betsuni 22 hrs ago #64

you're welcome, going back to my plough, now bigtree 22 hrs ago #66

Long worried about Schumer. Now worried about Jeffries. Nm Grins Yesterday #39

Defunding ICE maliaSmith Yesterday #40

While i agree something needs to be done Samael13 23 hrs ago #43

correct, I see less than half a dozen legislators in the article bigtree 22 hrs ago #63

How large is too large BidenRocks 23 hrs ago #45

Many Desirable Things Would be Possible if We Had a Democratic Majority in the House and Senate. MineralMan 23 hrs ago #50

I would assume that both the SocialDemocrat61 23 hrs ago #51

Our nation survived for 202 years without Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Thunderbeast 23 hrs ago #52

ICE was only formed in late 2003 as a response to 9/11 and the Homeland Security Act. It's budget then was Nanjeanne 23 hrs ago #53

Clickbait headline mcar 23 hrs ago #54

"Little interest" - oh, that's so much better! I'm relieved. Thank God. (nt) Duncan Grant 22 hrs ago #60

Better than refuse and the headline is misleading mcar 22 hrs ago #62

Regardless, they are doing nothing more than make speeches. Duncan Grant 22 hrs ago #67

I won't comment because I'd just get a post removed message CanonRay 23 hrs ago #56

Close the border! Leave law abiding people alone! OrlandoDem2 23 hrs ago #58

Childish belief there are simple easy solutions for everything but mean old Democrats refuse to do them. betsuni 22 hrs ago #61

Yeah orangecrush 22 hrs ago #80

Childish belief the designated leaders do no wrong Mysterian 17 hrs ago #100

Said nobody ever. betsuni 15 hrs ago #104

I'd like to see new leadership. hamsterjill 22 hrs ago #69

the members of the party elect their own leadership bigtree 19 hrs ago #96

Well, it's time for a change in my opinion. hamsterjill 18 hrs ago #98

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Didn't we all just have this same argument last week? MorbidButterflyTat 22 hrs ago #75

this time it's conveniently while Dems are meeting this week to make these decisions bigtree 19 hrs ago #97

It refuses to go away. We will see it again next week and the week after that and the week after that. betsuni 15 hrs ago #106

Makes me sick orangecrush 22 hrs ago #79

When maga has run its course, there will be time enough at last to regroup. usonian 21 hrs ago #85

This is war. They want to destroy us. I'm tired of nambie pambie pretending any of the is normal. flashman13 21 hrs ago #86

you don't even know their position on this, yay or nay bigtree 19 hrs ago #95

Possibly you missed a reporter asking Jefferies straight up whether he supported de-funding ICE. flashman13 17 hrs ago #99

that's specious bigtree 14 hrs ago #108

No it's not. It's more weak kneed non leadership. flashman13 2 hrs ago #110

""Statements and letters are not enough, and the appropriations process Scrivener7 14 hrs ago #107

They seem to be "re-fighting last year's election"---- Jack Valentino 14 hrs ago #109