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94. lol
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 06:36 PM
5 hrs ago

...why aren't you belittling and arguing with the lie in the op that they've 'refused' to commit to something or the other?

Why aren't you belittling the implication that there's a speck of daylight between them and the majority of the Democrats who put them in the leadership?

Why don't you belittle the article that provided less than half a dozen Democrats divided between houses of Congress griping about the funding, but not ONE criticizing their leadership for the same?

No, just more of the 'blame the prosecution instead of the perps' protectors in the courts shit (or blame the leadership instead if the people who chose them to represent them; or blame the pols stuck with a minority, instead of the people who refused to show up and provide them with one) that is all the rage these days from so many quarters.

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I don't know if they want to reveal everything in their toolbox right now, so to speak Just_Vote_Dem 13 hrs ago #1
Keeping one's powder dry. Kid Berwyn 12 hrs ago #7
Seriously your comment is a bit reassuring vapor2 12 hrs ago #17
This is kinda the same argument many of us here on DU, including me, were making in regards to Merrick Garland, MarineCombatEngineer 12 hrs ago #18
I hear you, but Just_Vote_Dem 11 hrs ago #20
... orangecrush 8 hrs ago #76
maybe we could try... ret5hd 3 hrs ago #101
If a rogue militia gunning down American citizens with impunity is not the right time, what is? Scrivener7 3 hrs ago #102
1000% TIMES THIS. No more M.Garland-style hope. No more wishing Maru Kitteh 11 hrs ago #27
Garland handed over a fast moving investigation to Smith who brought an indictment with more than enough time to convict bigtree 10 hrs ago #48
Thank you! betsuni 9 hrs ago #57
Hey there, posse pal! MorbidButterflyTat 9 hrs ago #71
Giddy-up, partner! betsuni 8 hrs ago #77
You're preaching to the choir MorbidButterflyTat 9 hrs ago #70
When it was discovered he had stolen all that classified material questionseverything 8 hrs ago #81
This! A hundred times this!! CrispyQ 7 hrs ago #87
He for sure wouldn't be walking around freely questionseverything 7 hrs ago #88
anyone looking at how high profile prosecutions are challenged and appealed bigtree 6 hrs ago #89
If he was sitting in jail, waiting for trial like any other traitor would be questionseverything 6 hrs ago #90
that possibility just existed in the internet fantasy prosecution bigtree 6 hrs ago #91
We disagree and I don't feel the need to belittle you and that's your entire argument questionseverything 6 hrs ago #92
lol bigtree 5 hrs ago #94
Yeah right. choie 10 hrs ago #33
Respectfully, I understand the optimism angrychair 10 hrs ago #41
I appreciate the response Just_Vote_Dem 10 hrs ago #42
No worries at all angrychair 10 hrs ago #44
Thank you! Just_Vote_Dem 10 hrs ago #46
Seconding angrychair in my hopes that you improve hamsterjill 9 hrs ago #68
Thank you so much! Just_Vote_Dem 8 hrs ago #84
This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush 8 hrs ago #74
They need to meet this moment leftstreet 13 hrs ago #2
Sadly, I think we need to face the fact that they won't. And our Democratic popularity will stay in the tank. Scrivener7 1 hr ago #105
Gosh I hope they don't listen. Everyone knows defund is a TERRIBLE slogan. Maybe something like "we want nicer ICE?" WhiskeyGrinder 12 hrs ago #3
Seen on social media: I like my ICE crushed. CrispyQ 12 hrs ago #8
Saw the same meme the other day peggysue2 9 hrs ago #65
Defund is a third rail term Johonny 12 hrs ago #4
How about " Keep the Border Sealed-- Re-form Ice" Ars Longa 11 hrs ago #23
Build the case that ICE is wasting money, on jets for instance. dem4decades 10 hrs ago #34
I didn't want to defund them angrychair 10 hrs ago #47
Unlike Defund the Police, this is a movement/term I can 100% back. n/t Ms. Toad 10 hrs ago #35
"There is nothing impossible to him who will try." Kid Berwyn 12 hrs ago #5
They could write strict regulations into the bill Fiendish Thingy 12 hrs ago #6
what bill? bigtree 9 hrs ago #59
My comments were in the context of positions the leadership could take Fiendish Thingy 8 hrs ago #82
the members of their respective bodies chose them bigtree 6 hrs ago #93
"It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners." ― Albert Camus Ping Tung 12 hrs ago #9
Wanting to neuter ICE is a political loser... biocube 12 hrs ago #10
The only test they have to pass is a loyalty test. gab13by13 12 hrs ago #12
Yes they definitely need MORE money WhiskeyGrinder 12 hrs ago #14
Oh! So the ICE murderer just wasn't trained properly leftstreet 12 hrs ago #19
Yes, I think if we had the same requirements for police officers biocube 11 hrs ago #22
yeah we know cops never murder anybody WhiskeyGrinder 11 hrs ago #24
Nonsense leftstreet 11 hrs ago #30
I don't see a lot of evidence pointing towards your assertion Torchlight 11 hrs ago #21
More training for Proud Boys Brownshirts is not going to make a bit of difference SamuelTheThird 11 hrs ago #31
Yeah that's what happened choie 10 hrs ago #37
I have a question that I hope those with more knowledge on this can help explain Quiet Em 12 hrs ago #11
Victims refuse JBTaurus83 12 hrs ago #13
At the very minimum, DISARM ICE C_U_L8R 12 hrs ago #15
I recommend they never say ANYTHING aocommunalpunch 12 hrs ago #16
Because complicity has been an effective response so far! Duncan Grant 11 hrs ago #25
They should have a background check. No arrest Emile 11 hrs ago #26
No wonder so many Dems are registering as independent now. CousinIT 11 hrs ago #28
Something about beatings continuing until morale improves. n/t flvegan 11 hrs ago #29
Schumer and Jeffries are legitimate, elected leaders. gulliver 11 hrs ago #32
Wut? We can't call for the reining-in of ICE because we weren't elected? And we're trying to lose us the midterms Scrivener7 3 hrs ago #103
Both need to face a primary. This is being complicit in the torture and murder of US citizens as well as immigrants. Demsrule86 10 hrs ago #36
Schumer is not up until 28 SocialDemocrat61 10 hrs ago #49
no Dem leader could undo the funding right now bigtree 10 hrs ago #55
No matter how many times it's explained who votes for leadership, fact refuses to sink in. betsuni 8 hrs ago #72
seriously. I have a hard time believing that they don't know the leaders represent the membership bigtree 8 hrs ago #78
I know. Now I have the urge to use "refuse" in every sentence. betsuni 8 hrs ago #83
THEY DON'T CONTROL THE BUDGET bigtree 10 hrs ago #38
Again big thank you. betsuni 9 hrs ago #64
you're welcome, going back to my plough, now bigtree 9 hrs ago #66
Long worried about Schumer. Now worried about Jeffries. Nm Grins 10 hrs ago #39
Defunding ICE maliaSmith 10 hrs ago #40
While i agree something needs to be done Samael13 10 hrs ago #43
correct, I see less than half a dozen legislators in the article bigtree 9 hrs ago #63
How large is too large BidenRocks 10 hrs ago #45
Many Desirable Things Would be Possible if We Had a Democratic Majority in the House and Senate. MineralMan 10 hrs ago #50
I would assume that both the SocialDemocrat61 10 hrs ago #51
Our nation survived for 202 years without Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Thunderbeast 10 hrs ago #52
ICE was only formed in late 2003 as a response to 9/11 and the Homeland Security Act. It's budget then was Nanjeanne 10 hrs ago #53
Clickbait headline mcar 10 hrs ago #54
"Little interest" - oh, that's so much better! I'm relieved. Thank God. (nt) Duncan Grant 9 hrs ago #60
Better than refuse and the headline is misleading mcar 9 hrs ago #62
Regardless, they are doing nothing more than make speeches. Duncan Grant 9 hrs ago #67
I won't comment because I'd just get a post removed message CanonRay 9 hrs ago #56
Close the border! Leave law abiding people alone! OrlandoDem2 9 hrs ago #58
Childish belief there are simple easy solutions for everything but mean old Democrats refuse to do them. betsuni 9 hrs ago #61
Yeah orangecrush 8 hrs ago #80
Childish belief the designated leaders do no wrong Mysterian 3 hrs ago #100
Said nobody ever. betsuni 2 hrs ago #104
I'd like to see new leadership. hamsterjill 9 hrs ago #69
the members of the party elect their own leadership bigtree 5 hrs ago #96
Well, it's time for a change in my opinion. hamsterjill 5 hrs ago #98
Post removed Post removed 8 hrs ago #73
Didn't we all just have this same argument last week? MorbidButterflyTat 8 hrs ago #75
this time it's conveniently while Dems are meeting this week to make these decisions bigtree 5 hrs ago #97
It refuses to go away. We will see it again next week and the week after that and the week after that. betsuni 1 hr ago #106
Makes me sick orangecrush 8 hrs ago #79
When maga has run its course, there will be time enough at last to regroup. usonian 8 hrs ago #85
This is war. They want to destroy us. I'm tired of nambie pambie pretending any of the is normal. flashman13 7 hrs ago #86
you don't even know their position on this, yay or nay bigtree 5 hrs ago #95
Possibly you missed a reporter asking Jefferies straight up whether he supported de-funding ICE. flashman13 4 hrs ago #99
that's specious bigtree 1 hr ago #108
""Statements and letters are not enough, and the appropriations process Scrivener7 1 hr ago #107
They seem to be "re-fighting last year's election"---- Jack Valentino 1 hr ago #109
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