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13. we don't actually have a bill
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 08:32 PM
Thursday

...and the consequences are as with any violation of the law.

What do local police and sheriffs do when their officers violate regulations proscribed by congressional legislation? That's the regime that's being proposed for ICE and DHS, no more no less.

You should recognize that this isn't Democratic legislation, it's a list of demands we expect republicans to adopt.

And recognizing that doing nothing is a failure on behalf of the Americans we're trying to defend with this negotiation effort with the republican majority.

Why represent this as a Democratic initative to a bill that Democrats control? No one should believe that effort would have any resemblance to this political effort to get the votes of a handful of republicans and the signature of trump.

Do any of the critics of this know how to achieve that political success; not just promote their own expectations which likely no republican we expect to vote on these demands shares?

Or would the critics rather just fight and not achieve any protections?

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I agree Progressive dog Thursday #1
language is weak. needs a list of demands and consequences IMO. prettyplease nt msongs Thursday #2
we don't actually have a bill bigtree Thursday #13
Bigtree, much of what you say rings true, but legislation is not the only political end Ilikepurple Thursday #15
I have to wonder, looking at the polls bigtree Thursday #19
act as if....set an assertive tone, hat in hand is not gonna cut it when stronger msongs Thursday #16
I don't agree that they are 'hat in hand' bigtree Thursday #18
I can't think of a single safety reason that would require a mask for ICE Bayard Thursday #3
and Democrats haven't allowed for any bigtree Thursday #12
Thank you for the discussion, bigtree. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Thursday #4
The demands aren't caving but I wish Shumer had been shouting and shamming the DHS and Republicans. nt ShazamIam Thursday #5
Anything short of abolishing ICE is caving Orrex Thursday #6
In the first place, these panty-faced goons are half-literate sadistic LEO rejects who can't Gaugamela Thursday #7
of course they're NOT inadequate, but we're not in control of what's in the bill, republicans are bigtree Thursday #9
Bless you Bigtree! BaronChocula Thursday #8
Here is what I don't get: James48 Thursday #10
K&R mcar Thursday #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Scrivener7 Thursday #14
Most of the people making those claims didn't even bother to read the details. FascismIsDeath Thursday #17
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